Altum licence for startup or independ professinal

[Morgoroth]

Anyone know if Altium have some serious discount for the licence that include 3D management for startups or independent professionals ?

I am independent professional and I've been able to get some Altium licences from startups programs for over a year, now I'm moving to another project located in San Francisco and I was wondering how to get a licence for that other startup or directly for me, but given the prices, it is impossible for me to get a proper licence that allow me to play with 3D models and stuffs that I supposed to be able to do.

I really appreciate the software and all the effort that the company put on it to make, probably, the best on kind, and I really don't want to be forced to use non orthodox ways to run it.

Thanks in advance,

 JP

[T3sl4co1l]

You can probably talk 'em down 20% or better.  I got a good deal last year, paid in cash.  Instant money is often a good motivator for companies...

Tim

[Morgoroth]

If I pay cash, there is any difference for them or for the deal be paid for a startup or as independent professional ?, because probably they would feel more open for a discount for an independent professional than for a company.

Is my appreciation correct ?

JP

[EEVblog]

Anyone know if Altium have some serious discount for the licence that include 3D management for startups or independent professionals ?

You can haggle with them, but basically, no.

The new Circuit Studio software is only $995

[EEVblog]

I got a good deal last year, paid in cash.  Instant money is often a good motivator for companies...

I doubt the sales person is motivated by cash, they wouldn't get any extra out of it.

[T3sl4co1l]

I got a good deal last year, paid in cash.  Instant money is often a good motivator for companies...

I doubt the sales person is motivated by cash, they wouldn't get any extra out of it.

The excuse they used was, "oh, I'll have to check with the manager to allow that", and, it was the end of the fiscal cycle or something (in June?).  I'm sure you can speak more about whether that means anything or not...

In any case, I paid no more than I was prepared to pay, so there's that.

Tim

[Morgoroth]

Anyone know if Altium have some serious discount for the licence that include 3D management for startups or independent professionals ?

You can haggle with them, but basically, no.

The new Circuit Studio software is only $995

I was using Circuit Studio for a while (beta) and it didn't let me play with 3D integration with Solidworks as I need for this project, and no BOM export (I use CIIVA later), annotation tools and properties managements, library management, etc etc... very useful save-time tools that make my day more productive, time is $.

I think I'm going to try to get a discount with the cash-under-nose technique in San Francisco.

Thanks for the tip anyway.

JP

[tautech]

Did you see this recent thread?
https://www.eevblog.com/forum/circuit-studio/altium-newbie-(cs)-coming-from-eagle-pcb/msg987105/#msg987105

[Morgoroth]

No, I haven't, but I used it before and was so bugged that we had to get an Altium licence.

Anyway I'm not sure if Circuit Studio is able to export the step model and let me play with free models, because I work with a mechanical engineer and a designer that use Maya, so...

And I doubt that Circuit studio let me play with PCB filters, very handy.

Just in case I'll check if this things are able now on Circuit Studio, but I doubt it.

JP

[tautech]

No, I haven't, but I used it before and was so bugged that we had to get an Altium licence.

Anyway I'm not sure if Circuit Studio is able to export the step model and let me play with free models, because I work with a mechanical engineer and a designer that use Maya, so...

And I doubt that Circuit studio let me play with PCB filters, very handy.

Just in case I'll check if this things are able now on Circuit Studio, but I doubt it.

JP

Jump in that thread JP and ask Ian, he's pretty switched on and should be able to help.

[ebclr]

Did you pay in RMB ? How much

[D3f1ant]

They run promotions occasionally,  that's is the best time to buy. The chance of getting a discount at any other time is low at best. It varies country by country too.

[batteksystem]

I got a good deal last year, paid in cash.  Instant money is often a good motivator for companies...

I doubt the sales person is motivated by cash, they wouldn't get any extra out of it.

The excuse they used was, "oh, I'll have to check with the manager to allow that", and, it was the end of the fiscal cycle or something (in June?).  I'm sure you can speak more about whether that means anything or not...

In any case, I paid no more than I was prepared to pay, so there's that.

Tim

For a sales person who is behind target, have anything is better than nothing. But you have to be lucky... (or he has to have bad luck)

[Bassman59]

I paid in USD, $8370 including NC state sales tax (shame on NC gov, they charge sales tax even on foreign citizen buying virtual products).

Why should your status as a foreign national preclude you from paying a sales tax to the state in which you reside? Do you not pay sales tax on products you purchase in the local stores? What do you think would happen if you were to suggest to the sales clerk, "I am not a US citizen, so I shouldn't have to pay sales tax on this purchase?"

Why does the fact that it is a "virtual" product make a difference? For example, I just bought a copy of Apple Logic Studio X, and I paid the usual 8.1% sales tax to the state of Arizona. And that's been the case for pretty much all of the software I've bought. That nothing was physically shipped to me has no bearing on the fact that a purchase was made.

[Bassman59]

I paid in USD, $8370 including NC state sales tax (shame on NC gov, they charge sales tax even on foreign citizen buying virtual products).

Why should your status as a foreign national preclude you from paying a sales tax to the state in which you reside? Do you not pay sales tax on products you purchase in the local stores? What do you think would happen if you were to suggest to the sales clerk, "I am not a US citizen, so I shouldn't have to pay sales tax on this purchase?"

Why does the fact that it is a "virtual" product make a difference? For example, I just bought a copy of Apple Logic Studio X, and I paid the usual 8.1% sales tax to the state of Arizona. And that's been the case for pretty much all of the software I've bought. That nothing was physically shipped to me has no bearing on the fact that a purchase was made.

The sales person told me in some states my situation can result in tax exemption.

And you believed him?

[andyturk]

Why does the fact that it is a "virtual" product make a difference?

Because the law (sometimes) says it does.

(D) The sale or lease of a prewritten program is not a taxable transaction if the program is transferred by remote telecommunications from the seller's place of business, to or through the purchaser's computer and the purchaser does not obtain possession of any tangible personal property, such as storage media, in the transaction. Likewise, the sale of a prewritten program is not a taxable transaction if the program is installed by the seller on the customer's computer except when the seller transfers title to or possession of storage media or the installation of the program is a part of the sale of the computer. Paragraph (C) applies to optional software maintenance contracts sold in connection with nontaxable transactions described in this paragraph.

California Tax Code, Article 1, Code 1502

[jh15]

What am I losing over Kicam vs $1000 for this? And Kicam I can use commercially.

[EEVblog]

The excuse they used was, "oh, I'll have to check with the manager to allow that", and, it was the end of the fiscal cycle or something (in June?).  I'm sure you can speak more about whether that means anything or not...
In any case, I paid no more than I was prepared to pay, so there's that.

It had nothing to do with it being cash, it was EOFY pressure and that is very real. It's usually quarter based actually.

[EEVblog]

They run promotions occasionally,  that's is the best time to buy. The chance of getting a discount at any other time is low at best. It varies country by country too.

I wait until my local supermarket has 50% off chocolate and then move in for the kill 
It's almost as reliable as clockwork.