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Offline idefixTopic starter

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One part and several BOM entries
« on: August 23, 2013, 02:09:55 pm »
Hi,

is it possible to home one component to handle in schematic and PCB but it consists of 3 parts in BOM.
Excatly it will be 2 x a pin:
http://eshop.wago.com/JPBC/singleview/guestDeepLink.hbc?supplierAID=243-131&catalogID=WAGO01
and 1x:
http://eshop.wago.com/JPBC/singleview/guestDeepLink.hbc?supplierAID=243-211&catalogID=WAGO01

So if I add the part once it should list in the BOM 2x243-131 and 1x243-211.
If I had two of this combined parts it should add to BOM 4x243-131 and 2x243-211.

Is this possible?

Thanks
Matthias
 

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Re: One part and several BOM entries
« Reply #1 on: August 23, 2013, 02:45:16 pm »
Not that i am aware of. That would defeat the back end assembly link....
You could trick it by adding a custom manufacturer and enter the partnumbers in that field but it would not be a line by line bom.
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Re: One part and several BOM entries
« Reply #2 on: August 23, 2013, 06:31:42 pm »
is it possible to home one component to handle in schematic and PCB but it consists of 3 parts in BOM.

You can place parts with a type of Mechanical which will generate BOM items without generating any PCB foot print.

You could place a jumper and two mechanical parts in a device sheet and place the device sheet but then you end up with an ugly device sheet symbol in your schematic not a jumper symbol.

It is an area Altium screwed up IMO. Ancient OrCAD supported sheetpath parts which basically let you create a schematic symbol with pins to represent schematic sheet with ports. It was widely used with libraries to for example place a TTL MSI part which had an underlying hierarchy of sheets producing the function of the part in primitives of this or that FPGA/PLD.

Altium had to support it to be compatible (and possibly still does) but I don't think there ever was a way to directly create a sheetpath part in Altium.  Later they came up with the device sheet scheme which could easily have supported the use of custom schematic symbols for the sheets but didn't.
 

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Re: One part and several BOM entries
« Reply #3 on: August 23, 2013, 10:00:59 pm »
Thanks a lot for your answers. Maybe an improvement suggestion for a future version ;)
 

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Re: One part and several BOM entries
« Reply #4 on: August 27, 2013, 03:14:50 pm »
If you make a schematic symbol and add it to the sheet.  Then right click on the part and refactor -> convert part to ports, you can explode a part to a sheet. 

Then you have a sheet that is represented as the 3 schematic and BOM parts, but one sheet symbol in the high levels.  Also look into repeat statements.

I have a USB port and associated circuits on one sheet and use Repeat(U,1,12) to put 12 channels of them in a schematic.  You can have group ports or separate ports.  Then in the PCB, you have rooms for each.  Route one room and then select Design -> Rooms -> Copy Room Formats.  Click on the routed one first.  Then click on each of the other rooms and it will auto place and route.  Very handy for doing a job once with multi channel designs.
 

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Re: One part and several BOM entries
« Reply #5 on: August 27, 2013, 04:02:19 pm »
Then you have a sheet that is represented as the 3 schematic and BOM parts, but one sheet symbol in the high levels.

Which instead of a symbol for a jumper gives you a stupid green box with two sheet entries on your schematic. Completely unacceptable for me.
 


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