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EEVblog => The AmpHour Radio Show => Topic started by: donmr on May 27, 2016, 03:47:03 pm

Title: Episode 300, 300 to go
Post by: donmr on May 27, 2016, 03:47:03 pm
As I understand MRI machines, they resolve one point at a time.  One slice takes a lot of points which takes a long time.
Title: Re: Episode 300, 300 to go
Post by: Len on May 28, 2016, 04:14:07 pm
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Episode 300, 300 to go

But it sounds like Dave may have suffered a career-ending knee injury. :(
Title: Re: Episode 300, 300 to go
Post by: AndreasF on May 29, 2016, 08:56:51 am
As I understand MRI machines, they resolve one point at a time.  One slice takes a lot of points which takes a long time.

Not necessarily. It really depends on the capabilities of the machine. But there is a trade off between scan time and resolution/SNR, so yes, a higher quality scan will take longer on any machine. For instance, a "functional" MRI scan can take a multi-slice image of the entire head/brain in a few seconds, but they dont look too pretty.
I was surprised that the machine moved Dave slice by slice. That's usually not necessary and may indicate that this particular scanner is perhaps less capable than others. By the way, no magnets are moving (apart from unwanted vibration that's making the noise).
If they ever have Ben Krasnow back on the show, they should ask him. He has worked and published in this area.
Title: Re: Episode 300, 300 to go
Post by: Artlav on June 04, 2016, 02:31:21 pm
The bottleneck in the MRI machine is the human.

An MRI is a big bubble of a very flat magnetic field, whose strength determines the frequency the the atoms would oscillate at.
The highter the frequency, the stronger the field is needed, but the higher is the resolution.

To make an image, a gradient is introduced in the magnetic field, making it possible to distinguish from where in the slice the signal came, based on it's frequency.
The received signal is passed through a spectrum analyzer kind of thing, and the spectrum is the bright and dark spots in the line of the image of that particular slice.

To get the next line the gradient must be altered, shifted in space. Line by line, slice by slice.

As you all know, a changing magnetic field induces a current in the conductors located inside of it.
And a human is both quite conductive and is a sensitive electronic "device".

So how fast they can cycle through the lines is limited by how much induced current is safe for a human body.