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Advanced diploma electronics at TAFE (kinda want Dave to answer this question)
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Mr. Scram:

--- Quote from: EEVblog on January 23, 2019, 06:21:19 am ---Nope, that makes you a hobbyist or amateur, not a professional, regardless of how good you are at it.

When you say "I'm a professional xxxxxxxx" it implies that it's what you do as a full time profession (hence the word).
Saying "I'm an engineer" kinda implies you are a "professional engineer".
I'm a qualified fitness instructor, but I don't go around calling myself a fitness instructor because I've never done it for a living.

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Apologies, I thought the question was what an "engineer" is instead of a "professional engineer".  '"Professional" denotes making living wages, yes.
CuteNotGate:

--- Quote from: EEVblog on January 23, 2019, 06:05:57 am ---
--- Quote ---Subjects that I was doing are:
Studies of Religion 1[/li][/list] (Band 4)

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WTF is wrong with this country that that's even an option?

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Its an option, its not mandatory if your in a public school but is compulsory in a catholic school. At least i got an final mark in 70's  but it was an waist of an unit.

So TAFE is the way to go then. But there are more then 1 advanced diploma in electronics though https://www.tafensw.edu.au/courses/electrotechnology-courses
EEVblog:

--- Quote from: Mr. Scram on January 23, 2019, 06:31:19 am ---
--- Quote from: EEVblog on January 23, 2019, 06:21:19 am ---Nope, that makes you a hobbyist or amateur, not a professional, regardless of how good you are at it.

When you say "I'm a professional xxxxxxxx" it implies that it's what you do as a full time profession (hence the word).
Saying "I'm an engineer" kinda implies you are a "professional engineer".
I'm a qualified fitness instructor, but I don't go around calling myself a fitness instructor because I've never done it for a living.

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Apologies, I thought the question was what an "engineer" is instead of a "professional engineer".  '"Professional" denotes making living wages, yes.

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I missed that the said just "engineer". My point still stands though, I don't call myself a fitness instructor, and given that I only do fitness as a hobby, at best I'm a "fitness hobbyist" or "fitness amateur" despite being qualified. I'd make the same argument for "engineer". Amateur engineers have always called themselves hobbyists.
If I stopped doing engineering as a living or a hobby, I'd call myself a "former engineer" at best.
Mr. Scram:

--- Quote from: EEVblog on January 23, 2019, 06:36:39 am ---I missed that the said just "engineer". My point still stands though, I don't call myself a fitness instructor, and given that I only do fitness as a hobby, at best I'm a "fitness hobbyist" or "fitness amateur" despite being qualified. I'd make the same argument for "engineer". Amateur engineers have always called themselves hobbyists.
If I stopped doing engineering as a living or a hobby, I'd call myself a "former engineer" at best.

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I understand where you're coming from. I'm probably looking more at the term in the etymological sense, with it originally meaning "cleverly devising". I guess that's trade versus activity.
mrpackethead:

--- Quote from: EEVblog on January 23, 2019, 06:36:39 am ---If I stopped doing engineering as a living or a hobby, I'd call myself a "former engineer" at best.

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Is one of the primary activitys of an engineer to RANT?
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