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rstofer:

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The hard part is getting that first engineering job (with or without a degree), and then you have something to sell yourself with.


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Not having any experience, other than taking classes, makes the first step into a job quite problematic.  Our local university requires two summers of internship before graduation and the university sets up the employer-student match.  You wake up one morning with an email to pack your bags, you're going to work!

I see two outcomes:  First, the student get exposed to industry and likes what their future holds or, second, they realize they made a really bad choice of major.

gildasd:

--- Quote from: rstofer on January 24, 2019, 12:48:37 am ---
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--- Quote from: EEVblog on January 23, 2019, 11:44:27 pm ---
Most electronics design work does not require complex math, and you can go your entire career without ever needing to use calculus for example.
Of course there are some jobs you might use it daily, but I think if you polled the design engineers on here you'll find they hardly need it.
That's not to say it's not important etc, and you certainly need to know the concepts.


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simple problem.   A capacitor attached to a fixed DC rail ( and GND ).    At time t, after the rail is turned on, what is the current flowing into the cap?

What branch of mathematics do you use to solve this problem.

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Exponentials are covered in Algebra I according to Khan Academy.  Really, Vc = Vs(1-e-t/Tau) is pretty simple.

Now, i = C * dv/dt probably has to wait until Calc I.  It can be hand-waved much earlier.  If we include a series resistor, it is much easier:  i = V/R * (e-t/Tau)  V is the applied voltage.

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I can thanks Khan academy getting me through the maths part of my degree.
Their gradual difficulty increase, the clear videos and being able to endlessly repeat exercises of a tough for you point was really great.

I now use it to get my 6 year old daughter into maths :)

StreuB1:

--- Quote from: rstofer on January 23, 2019, 03:20:16 pm ---Around here, Calc I is a 1st semester class in an engineering program and that assumes you have the equivalent knowledge of Pre-Calc which is a two semester class.  Pre-Calc assumes a decent background from high school.  But 2 semesters is a full year and it doesn't even count toward graduation.  That's one of the reasons engineering programs are now more typically 5 years than 4.  And don't even think about skipping Pre-Calc, you will struggle mightily with the low level details when you take Calc I.  There is a saying that "Calculus is easy, it's Pre-Calc that's difficult!".  It's a fair assessment.  Here's a hint:  Don't take Pre-Calc I as a short summer class.

Given the Internet and resources like Khan Academy and CalcWorkshop (fee), math is getting more approachable.  There are so many tutorials just watch some and see how it works out.  NancyPi is good (and easy on the eyes).  Her channel used to be MathBff.

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One comment......

Methods of solving definite integrals of rational expressions using Partial Fractions Decomposition. The one often poorly covered topic from Precalc1 that comes back to rape you in Calc2.

EEVblog:

--- Quote from: rstofer on January 24, 2019, 01:23:15 am ---Not having any experience, other than taking classes, makes the first step into a job quite problematic. 
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And that's the trick, only a fool does that. Don't try and compete with a thousand other clueless graduates with no experience in anything.
Just work on your own projects (or join other projects and contribute) and you'll have something to show.

Inverted18650:
three things:

1.Dave replied and gave you amazing words of wisdom.

2.Even asking for Dave, you got others to give you their professional opinion.

3.This forum is gold!

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