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Almost completed rebuild of "old" bench grinder
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Mr. Scram:

--- Quote from: fixit7 on July 11, 2019, 01:53:16 am ---You are entitled to your opinion.

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Please don't brush safety warnings aside as being just opinions, for your own sake. Also don't mistake criticism for personal attacks. People worry because of what they see, not because they don't like you as a person. You getting hurt would please no one.
Zero999:

--- Quote from: Mr. Scram on July 11, 2019, 12:17:19 pm ---
--- Quote from: fixit7 on July 11, 2019, 01:53:16 am ---You are entitled to your opinion.

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Please don't brush safety warnings aside as being just opinions, for your own sake. Also don't mistake criticism for personal attacks. People worry because of what they see, not because they don't like you as a person. You getting hurt would please no one.

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Yes, we'd rather your feelings get hurt, than you die from electrocution.


--- Quote from: fixit7 on July 11, 2019, 11:43:22 am ---
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--- Quote from: fixit7 on July 11, 2019, 02:43:22 am ---
--- Quote from: MarkF on July 11, 2019, 02:05:39 am ---Again!

Why did you start a new thread on the same subject as the others.
All these "grinder repair" threads SHOULD be in one and ONLY one thread.
People will like to see the evolution of the project all at one place.

Keep all related content together.

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I chose to do so for good reasons.

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I ask in all seriousness - what are those reasons?

If we understand your perspective, we might be less critical of having one project spread over multiple threads.

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One reasonable person among a sea of "anger" challenged individuals.

That is refreshing.

I will answer your question when the personal attacks stop completely.

Best regards,
                       Andy

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I know this forum has a no duplicate thread policy. Now whilst I have no authority here, I'm not a moderator, posting threads about the same project, does seem to be treading a fine line with this rule and as a moderator has closed one of them already, it's probably a good idea to keep it to one thread per project in future. Sticking to one thread per project would certainly not annoy so many people here, since if they're not interested, they only have one thread to ignore and if they are interested, all of the relevant information will be in the same place.

Different forums have different rules and etiquette. If you don't like it here, feel free to leave and post in one which suits you better.
soldar:

--- Quote from: fixit7 on July 11, 2019, 11:43:22 am --- I will answer your question when the personal attacks stop completely.
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What kind of childish attitude is that? Do you always have to be so rude?

You come here asking for help and you are rude to those you are asking?  You argue with the advice you are given. You are told you style of opening multiple threads on the same topic is annoying and clutters the forums and you argue with that too. That is how you ask for help? Sheesh. Some people beg with an attitude like they are the ones giving.

Really, learn some manners or take your attitude elsewhere.
Brumby:

--- Quote from: fixit7 on July 11, 2019, 11:43:22 am --- I will answer your question when the personal attacks stop completely.
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I am somewhat disappointed by that response.  I was hoping you would provide something to help diffuse the tension, but that has done the opposite.

It is not my intention to jump on your head - nor do I see such malice in members here, in general.  However, you seem to be taking offence at any comment which calls your abilities into question.  As I - and others - have said, you have made statements and asked questions that clearly indicate your knowledge is lacking in some areas - and critical safety areas at that.  As we have a wide range of experience and expertise available here, it is this indication that brings concern for your safety and being a group that fully understands many of the non-obvious potential fault conditions that could eventuate, we must, in good conscience, air those concerns.

Your reaction is a classic expression one would associate with the Dunning–Kruger effect - something we have seen here before and which has, in the past (and very likely in the future) garnered the same sort of response that you have received.  It is not a case of being high and mighty on our part - but an honest expression of concern.  Without proper understanding, you could do something that could damage a machine or destroy a home.  It could maim or it could kill.  You may think this melodramatic, but the potential is there.  We can see it.  We had hoped you would come to see it as well.

You talk about respect, but fail to give any to people who have far more knowledge, just because they point out something that you don't like.  You see it as an attack, rather than help - even though they are trying to look out for your well being.

I have no misgivings about my own skill set.  While I first started my journey with electricity at age 8 using a 9V battery, developing over a subsequent period of several decades, I still acknowledge there are many things I do not know.  I have dealt with 415V/240V mains in a domestic environment.  I have worked on battery operated equipment and CRT TVs.  I am still here to relate my tales - but I do not claim to have complete understanding in any way, shape or form ... and if a member here were to call me out on something I was doing, I might be embarrassed - but I would listen.  And I would probably thank them.


In short, our wish for you is simple:  Be safe.

dmills:

--- Quote from: fixit7 on July 11, 2019, 02:43:22 am ---sci.electronics.basics (A google group)

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Respectful? S.E.* ??!?
Useful, yea, grant that, but no group with Phil Allison as a member could be described in those terms!
 
If you hung around Usenet before the "Eternal September", in the electronics groups you will know who I am talking about, back then calling someone on usenet a pedo because you had a minor difference of opinion was a MILD rebuke, and manufacturing evidence was merely considered doing it properly.

This place is calm, collected and polite in comparison to almost any Usenet group back in the day. 

That job on that grinder is a total cackhander by the way.

Regards, Dan.
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