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| tooki:
--- Quote from: fixit7 on July 11, 2019, 01:53:16 am --- --- Quote from: tooki on July 10, 2019, 11:23:32 pm --- --- Quote from: fixit7 on July 10, 2019, 03:39:26 am ---Painting still in progress. :-) Bonus points for who knows what the "pink material under the grinder" is. And it's purpose. --- End quote --- That switch gives me the heebie jeebies. Combined with the lack of understanding you demonstrated in the prior threads, I’d be borderline afraid to use it. I don’t think you really understand the safety implications of motor wiring. --- End quote --- You are entitled to your opinion. --- End quote --- I am indeed. But I'm far from the only one here who thinks you are doing things that could end up with you getting injured or killed. As Zero999 said, we'd rather you have a bruised ego than be in a coffin. Do you not understand this?? As others have said, nothing here is "personal attacks". Nobody is judging you as a person -- ALL of us started off from knowing nothing about electronics! We are, however, responding to the content of your posts, and that content makes us worry you could injure yourself (or potentially others) with an unsafe rewiring job. For example, threads like this indicate to us that you do not understand the basics of electricity, since you didn't understand the need to actually connect components, nor the need to insulate things that shouldn't be connected. So when in one of your numerous grinder threads, you express an assumption about a protective ground that's the exact opposite of the way it works, it really indicates you're working on things you do not understand well enough to do safely. That's not a personal attack, it's an invitation to take a step back and fill the gaps in your knowledge before something bad happens. |
| tooki:
--- Quote from: soldar on July 11, 2019, 01:05:51 pm --- --- Quote from: fixit7 on July 11, 2019, 11:43:22 am --- I will answer your question when the personal attacks stop completely. --- End quote --- What kind of childish attitude is that? Do you always have to be so rude? You come here asking for help and you are rude to those you are asking? You argue with the advice you are given. You are told you style of opening multiple threads on the same topic is annoying and clutters the forums and you argue with that too. That is how you ask for help? Sheesh. Some people beg with an attitude like they are the ones giving. Really, learn some manners or take your attitude elsewhere. --- End quote --- Totally agree with you -- and you and I have had far, far bigger disagreements than this! (But I still ultimately respect you and don't assume you're coming from a place of malice, like the OP here.) |
| tooki:
--- Quote from: Brumby on July 11, 2019, 02:52:50 pm --- --- Quote from: fixit7 on July 11, 2019, 11:43:22 am --- I will answer your question when the personal attacks stop completely. --- End quote --- I am somewhat disappointed by that response. I was hoping you would provide something to help diffuse the tension, but that has done the opposite. It is not my intention to jump on your head - nor do I see such malice in members here, in general. However, you seem to be taking offence at any comment which calls your abilities into question. As I - and others - have said, you have made statements and asked questions that clearly indicate your knowledge is lacking in some areas - and critical safety areas at that. As we have a wide range of experience and expertise available here, it is this indication that brings concern for your safety and being a group that fully understands many of the non-obvious potential fault conditions that could eventuate, we must, in good conscience, air those concerns. Your reaction is a classic expression one would associate with the Dunning–Kruger effect - something we have seen here before and which has, in the past (and very likely in the future) garnered the same sort of response that you have received. It is not a case of being high and mighty on our part - but an honest expression of concern. Without proper understanding, you could do something that could damage a machine or destroy a home. It could maim or it could kill. You may think this melodramatic, but the potential is there. We can see it. We had hoped you would come to see it as well. You talk about respect, but fail to give any to people who have far more knowledge, just because they point out something that you don't like. You see it as an attack, rather than help - even though they are trying to look out for your well being. I have no misgivings about my own skill set. While I first started my journey with electricity at age 8 using a 9V battery, developing over a subsequent period of several decades, I still acknowledge there are many things I do not know. I have dealt with 415V/240V mains in a domestic environment. I have worked on battery operated equipment and CRT TVs. I am still here to relate my tales - but I do not claim to have complete understanding in any way, shape or form ... and if a member here were to call me out on something I was doing, I might be embarrassed - but I would listen. And I would probably thank them. In short, our wish for you is simple: Be safe. --- End quote --- Extremely well said, Brumby. Participating on EEVblog (and watching a few other great youtubers like bigclive and John Ward) has been an extremely enlightening, educational, and humbling experience. I've learned a ton, and also learned about areas of knowledge ("traps for young players") that I didn't even know existed, and thus would never have thought to ask for help with, and about dangers I would never have thought of, and thus would not have watched out for. And to be sure, for the most part, if one accepts the advice offered here with an open mind, fellow members will be helpful and help you learn. It does sometimes take a thick skin -- this isn't the most diplomatic forum I've ever used -- but it's all coming from the right place. |
| KL27x:
Damn. Still replacing a switch? >:D The pink stuff is ESD shipping foam, commonly sent with electronics components. To reduce vibration? --- Quote ---One reasonable person among a sea of "anger" challenged individuals. That is refreshing. I will answer your question when the personal attacks stop completely. --- End quote --- Tooki, shhhh. Be vewy, vewy quiet. We hunting wabbits. |
| TERRA Operative:
Oh, I get it now. He's a troll. |
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