Author Topic: Different internal resistance readings from BT-3100 & a SM8124A (advice please)  (Read 574 times)

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Offline ludditeTopic starter

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HI

I have been happy with my Opus BT-3100 v2.2 charger but wanted a dedicated (battery powered) resistance tester for when I am out and about.
I yesterday received the SM8124A which according to reviews is ok.

However I noticed the readings are way off between the two devices so I need help please.

On the Opus using the "quicktest" setting it showed a resistance of 197
On the SM8124A it returned 102.

This is happening on all the ones I am testing, roughly twice the amount between them.

Is there an easy way to find out which unit is closest to being accurate please without (if possible) doing Ohms law)

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Offline CaptDon

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What are you testing? Some meters use a 1ma current source and convert voltage to ohms, others do it differently. This makes a huge difference when measuring things like diodes and transistors.
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Offline ludditeTopic starter

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Thanks for reply, sorry for not being clearer.

18650's but it seems that I am not going get a consistent reading with the Opus anyway.

I tested in all four slots & got wildly different readings 

Battery 1  40, 44, 64, 42
Battery 2  65, 47, 96, 37
Battery 3  53, 55, 69, 41
Battery 4  77, 43, 80, 54
Battery 5  70, 45, 76, 55

So I need to ignore the opus and get a reading from something else to compare to the readings I am getting on the dedicated impedance meter (SM8124a)

I am really good at maths, even algebra seems easy but I just struggle with Ohms hence needed a comparable device. 
 

Offline CaptDon

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What are you trying to measure? The internal resistance of a battery? That is surely going to be a speculative number at best. How would you begin to even evaluate that resistance? It would change with state of charge, temperature and battery age. What will the number tell you? A battery with 40 milliohms of internal resistance could possibly still generate more current flow under heavy loads than one with a resistance of 30 milliohms because the one with 40 milliohms of resistance could be of better construction with an ability to give up more electrons at a faster rate. Using internal resistance as a measure of what a battery is capable of isn't really the factor to judge by. Back in the days of finicky NiCads I would give a bank of them an equal charge overnight at the recommended C/10 and then measure current output and rate of falloff into a heavy load of 10 milliohms total using a current clamp meter. This would give me sort of a baseline for each battery. Then let them sit at room temperature for a week and repeat the test. Very different results!!! Some of the ones that looked good during the first test just didn't do crap a week later!!! Ohm's law is exceedingly simple, if you are confused you are probably applying it wrong. Remember ohm's triangle, The Indian sees the Eagle over the Rabbit....E over I, E over R, I times R. Ohm's law is not even algebra, it is simple math (Well, the power equations may border on alg).
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