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| Bear207:
From the my standpoint, a very new member to this forum yet very experienced member of other professional forums, ..... this place is fantastic! The significant majority of comments made are constructive with pure helpful intentions. I am a part of a members only professional forum where I seldom visit any longer because there is no joy reading beyond the first few posts to any OP because the dialog devolves just as Lightages stated. A lot of great information is shared, however, there is so much extra static and dung it is not worth the effort to sift through it all. For a free no restrictions to entry forum, this place is great for all levels of experience. The moderators must be doing a good job for I have not seen any examples of inappropriate behavior. Kodos As for being discouraged by comments, I agree we must all be careful and try to consider how our words are received. So many different cultures and mores to consider. It just boils down to good intentions and respect. Although I am enjoying reading and studying for hours...it is not fostering domestic tranquility. Time for me to see things from another point of view. ha-ha Regards. |
| Rick Law:
--- Quote from: Brumby on February 23, 2018, 02:00:31 pm ---I can only support Lightages with his statement. I know I've made similar statements in the past and it seems they need regular re-stating. A lot of the time it is the fallout from people not keeping in mind one, simple fact: --- Quote from: Lightages on February 23, 2018, 05:30:51 am ---Remember this is the beginners forum --- End quote --- .... and that beginners will ask questions here. --- End quote --- I also strongly support Lightages' statement. --- Quote from: Rbastler on February 23, 2018, 02:32:29 pm ---Negative critisism should be allowed, if it is constructive. ... --- End quote --- Now if I may make a (hopefully constructive) suggestion: If we can "clean up" our languages here, we can make this even more inviting to beginners and others. On at least a couple of occasions, I was going to suggest to some young kid with electronic interest to check this forum out, but I ended up not making such recommendation: too many F-bombs and the likes. I just didn't want to have to explain to the mother of the kid why I introduced her kid to a forum with languages that in the old days would cause the kid to be punished by having his/her mouth wash with soap. Lightages, as you have used the F-Bomb in the OP, please do not consider this a criticism of you and please don't feel offended. As I have seen many of your posts, I have much respect of your skill and your abilities. However, I do want to share my thoughts on why I am reluctant to recommend this forum to younger kids with electronics interest I've encountered. I'm old school... may be too old school, but I am sure there are others like me who would be reluctant to expose their kids to such language. |
| Jwillis:
--- Quote from: Monkeh on February 23, 2018, 03:34:26 pm --- --- Quote from: Cerebus on February 23, 2018, 03:02:40 pm ---*An exception is old RIVA X class capacitors, which are the spawn of the devil, and are always wrong. --- End quote --- But I got this box off them off eBay really cheap so I have to use them --- End quote --- You can always use them from 4th of July fire crackers! :-DD Just trying to lighten the mood. :) |
| Lightages:
Rick Law: While I understand your intent, and even have sympathy for your position I must say I disagree. Censorship is not going to work, never mind not protect anyone from seeing or hearing words in real life. In some countries some words mean nothing but in others they are held to be extremely offensive, even to the point of people being killed. If we are to try and say nothing offensive to anyone at anytime, communication comes to an end. You can't be afraid to say what is on your mind even if it risks offending someone else. What words do we ban: shit, fanny, baldy, moron? Where will it end? |
| Brumby:
I agree on the avoidance of censorship - but at the same time, I would prefer people avoid using words that can cause concern to others. Yes, people will hear these words in other places - but those places carry with them a certain reputation or expectation from the people that frequent them. I would rather that NOT be the case here. As I see it, this is the fundamental concern Rick Law has expressed. It has been my observation that the use of some words - such as the F-bomb - is primarily used to convey a more intense emotion than normal for the purpose of making a strong point ... and to do it in four letters. It has also been my observation that these can be replaced with other words or phrases that still convey the same meaning and, with some thought, the same intensity. I would simply encourage people to consider alternative phrases, use highlighting such as bold and underline to add emphasis ... but, in the end, it is up to each individual. PS SMF has a facility which can intervene here - but I would not suggest it for this forum. |
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