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| james_s:
Why wouldn't a '55 Ford be useful? It would get you around just as well as a modern car and with a lot more style. It's easy to work on and can be repaired with basic tools. I wouldn't say it's worth spending a lot on an analog scope but even after using a DSO for years I find there's something more "real" feeling about analog. You can turn down the sweep speed and see the beam moving in real time. I think there's some benefit to using one early on. Likewise I think proficiency with a manual transmission should be mandatory to obtain a driver's license. It makes people better, more attentive and more engaged drivers. |
| Gyro:
--- Quote from: rstofer on April 21, 2019, 06:56:14 pm ---I'm not sure what to think about a USB scope. Sure, my AD2 is USB based and the UI isn't horrible. I don't know how the VDS1022I UI works. I watched a short video but I can't say I was impressed. So, in the near future, I'll buy one just to test it out. They're cheap enough and I have an application so why not? --- End quote --- Operation becomes a lot easier once you start using the, mostly undocumented, shortcuts. ;) https://www.eevblog.com/forum/testgear/owon-vds1022i-quick-teardown-(versus-the-hantek-6022be)/msg827103/#msg827103 Don't forget to expand the image, which highlights the items numbered in the list. |
| exe:
I hear you guys and I see really nothing against touch screen, but just personal taste, which is fine. Again, the discussion itself doesn't really make any sense, as no "thought experiment" can replace real hands-on experience with a particular device. The potential problems mentioned here with touch ui, I simply have almost none of them :). May be because UI on micsigs works not the way it is assumed. Sure thing, if it was missing touches, had too tiny controls, hands were obstructing screen, etc, that reasoning would be valid. But those are just assumptions, not standing true *in my typical operation of the scope*. And it's not just me, you are welcome to read reviews and discussion in the relevant thread on this forum, including from reputable members: https://www.eevblog.com/forum/testgear/micsig-to1104-(similar-to-rigol-1104z)/ (old version of firmare, but still representative) . It's fine to like knobs, just don't generalize bad touch experience too much :) |
| Old Printer:
One thing I would mention with the USB scopes is the software, it can make or kill the usefulness of the hardware. The Picoscope and the Analog Discovery are the more expensive of the entry level USB scopes and their software gets great reviews. The Owons' and Hanteks' not so much. A few of the Hanteks are supported by Sigrok and i would investigate those and be wary of any low budget USB scope without Sigrok compatibility. |
| Doctorandus_P:
Courses should not be made around some specific scope model. A basic course about electronics shoul of course have some fair bits of info about oscilloscopes and how to use them, but it should not be dependent on a particular brand or model of scope. So don't write, "push this or tha" button" ( with a screenshot), but write " Put your scope into AC-coupling mode." It may seem easier for you to teach which button to push, but if your students do not learn what they are doing or why a particular measurement mode is preferable for the measurement at hand they won't learn much. Even if your students can not afford them (yet), a chapter about some more advanced measurement modes of oscilloscopes and some differences between brands will help them make educated desicions for themself. I've got an old Rigol DS1052 myself and tought about upgrading to a 4 channel Siglent. Then I realised that my old Rigol already is more scope than I actually need. I hacked it to 100MHz, but almost always limit the bandwith to 20MHz because I don't want to see the noise, and decent probe setup for that bandwith is too cumbersome to setup anyway for most measurements. |
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