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Re: Buying 3D Printer in low budget
« Reply #25 on: March 28, 2021, 09:03:46 pm »
precision modelling with Blender...









the good thing about Blender... similar to Fusion 360... is it doesnt have a cracked copy, the bad thing is its doesnt have native built-in online cloud based saving feature :P
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Re: Buying 3D Printer in low budget
« Reply #26 on: March 29, 2021, 01:38:20 pm »
Oh and i forgot to say fusion is spyware that uploads your things to internet.

**I've had a few bad rolls, and they weren't all the cheap ones.

Hi, what brands are not recommended by you ?
 

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Re: Buying 3D Printer in low budget
« Reply #27 on: March 29, 2021, 03:43:11 pm »
What CAD software you guys recommend? i also checked fusion 360 its crazy expensive, free version has a lot of limitations, its all based on i watched a lot of videos on youtube to learn CAd.

wow!

Fusion360 is by far the cheapest professional CAD/CAM/CAE software.
It is free for education, hobby and startups (read terms to see if you qualify).
The free version is exactly the same as the paid version, which cost 415 Euro per year.
Only the extensions cost extra money.

Everything you stated is wrong.

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Re: Buying 3D Printer in low budget
« Reply #28 on: March 29, 2021, 03:46:11 pm »
Oh and i forgot to say fusion is spyware that uploads your things to internet.

**I've had a few bad rolls, and they weren't all the cheap ones.

Hi, what brands are not recommended by you ?

Fusion360 is Cloud based. You may or may not like that.

But it is certainly not spyware nor are your files uploaded to the internet, as if they are publicly available. Also, all files are encrypted and stored on third party servers, mostly Amazon's.

Perhaps your are confusing it with Onshape: on the free account everything you model will be made available to the general public.

I wonder how much of your data is already stored in the Cloud... I fought it, too, in the beginning. But then our company got Office365 and all my emails were on the Cloud. Then I started to use OneDriver more and more... Now ALL my data is on the Cloud. It should be safe, as it is supposed to be encrypted. I don't worry too much about it. And yes, it is so convenient: no matter if at home on the desktop computer, on the road with one of my 3 different laptops or on the mobile phone: I have access to all my data.

And even if you keep your data on your own PC, how sure can you be to never be a victim of troyan, spyware or randsomware?

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Re: Buying 3D Printer in low budget
« Reply #29 on: March 29, 2021, 04:58:53 pm »
if they dont know how to take care (backup) their local storage, then they should use the cloud, with hope the server site will not get burnt and the world's natural resources to generate electricity is not ending and you dont have an idiot IT contractor around.
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Re: Buying 3D Printer in low budget
« Reply #30 on: March 29, 2021, 05:42:28 pm »
Oh and i forgot to say fusion is spyware that uploads your things to internet.

**I've had a few bad rolls, and they weren't all the cheap ones.

Hi, what brands are not recommended by you ?
The cheapest 1 kg PLA rolls on ebay (the ones that are about £13/kg) are mostly OK, I have had a couple of nozzle blockages with these and they're often wound badly (rarely bad enough to jam) but nothing major with many kg used.
I've had one Amazon Basics roll, that was awful, it just wouldn't stick to the bed whatever I did.
Multicomp (Farnell own-brand) seems surprisingly good.
Everything I've bought from 3djake has been good, mostly BQ and extrudr brands
Someone gave me a roll of filamentive which seems good though I've only used a few grams of it
Technology outlet seems good.
Had some very bad Velleman filament (did a big group buy and every roll was near-unusable, had to be printed crazy-hot or it delaminated).
Same group used a lot of Sunlu and it was very inconsistent between batches.
 

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Re: Buying 3D Printer in low budget
« Reply #31 on: March 30, 2021, 01:08:09 am »
if they dont know how to take care (backup) their local storage, then they should use the cloud, with hope the server site will not get burnt and the world's natural resources to generate electricity is not ending and you dont have an idiot IT contractor around.

https://www.zdnet.com/article/follow-schofields-three-laws-of-computing-and-avoid-disasters/  Big fan of the second Law  :-+

Oh and i forgot to say fusion is spyware that uploads your things to internet.


Please cite lines of code, files and EVIDENCE for yet another FALSE or misleading claim about Fusion?

OR

Please put on a two layer Tinfoil hat and disconnect everything you own from the grid because clearly you know 'they' are watching  :palm:
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Re: Buying 3D Printer in low budget
« Reply #32 on: March 30, 2021, 12:01:59 pm »
if they dont know how to take care (backup) their local storage, then they should use the cloud, with hope the server site will not get burnt and the world's natural resources to generate electricity is not ending and you dont have an idiot IT contractor around.
https://www.zdnet.com/article/follow-schofields-three-laws-of-computing-and-avoid-disasters/  Big fan of the second Law  :-+
so those laws are not in favor of cloud based storage from my eyes here esp #1 and #2. #3 is somewhat broken, i can easily access my local storage but i bet no one else can unless if i allow them to.
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Re: Buying 3D Printer in low budget
« Reply #33 on: March 30, 2021, 12:10:42 pm »
As I mentioned earlier NOT the place to litigate Cloud anything just a reminder that Backups personal and corporate matter and multiple places as well. As to being under the FALSE impression your connected ANYTHING is 100% safe well good luck with that delusion  :-DD
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Re: Buying 3D Printer in low budget
« Reply #34 on: March 30, 2021, 01:39:00 pm »
Can you even start fusion in a offline environement ?, counts enough as proof.
 

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Re: Buying 3D Printer in low budget
« Reply #35 on: March 31, 2021, 01:57:03 am »
Can you even start fusion in a offline environement ?, counts enough as proof.

Yes you can.

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I don't like cloud based software either for various reasons and I try to avoid it whenever I can but that is the current industry model to make money and eventually you will be forced to accept or, at least, use it.

I really tried to use FreeCAD but it still has a long way to go. I saw that version 0.19 was just released, I may give it another try and see if there's any improvement.

Blender is a very powerful software, but it's not intended for mechanical design. Yes, of course you can use it but it's just not the right tool. Now, if you are designing things like action figures to print then I agree, Blender is a better alternative. For mechanical parts, it's not.

If you really can't accept to use Fusion360, then at least try Solid Edge, it is a professional mechanical design CAD and it has a free version available that works offline.
 

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Re: Buying 3D Printer in low budget
« Reply #36 on: March 31, 2021, 03:20:11 am »
There is no such thing as free software.  All software, particularly complex software takes time and effort to learn.  Once learned it is a sunk cost and cannot be recovered.  This factors into software selection, and is one reason Linux hasn't taken over and why Apple wasn't run over during it's down period.  Fear of losing that investment is legitimate as Eagle users and those who like earlier user interfaces for Microsoft products have discovered. 

Those costs and potential costs must be weighed against technical advantages.  Existing training for other purposes explains why Blender might be the right tool for some individuals.  Sure there are tools better optimized for mechanical design, and they are the right choice for mechanical design professionals and those who will be doing complex designs or lots of them, but that isn't everyone.
 


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