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buying a Desoldering station,Aoyue 474 vs Aoyue 474++ VS SP-1010DR.

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TuxKey:
Hi guys,

i'm new to this forum and i'm trying to learn what i can to help me with my first projects in mechanical keyboard modding.
Since a couple of months i have bin looking at desoldering stations and watching youtube vids doing research.
I also watched David's tear down of the ZD985.

High on my list was the Aoyue 8800 a desoldering gun for €119 plust €9 shipping.
But a couple of people advised against that stating (the good point) that parts where hard to get for it..
The better option would be the cheaper "SP-1010DR" that i could buy from TME in EU for €70 plus €8 since i'm going to get my solder and flux from them that's not an issue..
https://www.tme.eu/en/details/sp-1010dr/desoldering-stations/solder-peak/

But then i saw "AOYUE 474A++ double teardown: Old vs. new model" on youtube.
https://youtu.be/5UrB1t3xQG0

where he stated that the older model was way better than the new one..
so i asked around on ebay and a local internet store if they had the older model.
but no such luck..

explaining what the differences are:

new model 2015 and newer.
older model 2014 and earlier (i presume earlier)..

Old model a lot quieter than the new one.
Old model larger dual layer diaphragm pump new smaller single diaphragm pump.
New model does have greater suction power.
Old model has a smaller 80w transformer while the newer one has a 100w transformer.

The old model is a AC pump while the new one is DC pump.
No sleep / wake function direct via the gun in the new model.

Also there are a few design decisions that are questionable at best that’s from my understanding mind you ..he does explain it in his vid and it’s worth watching.

So what now????
Well in my contact with the store that sells the newer 474A++ i asked them if they have one with that type of pump.
And they mentioned they had an older one that was laying around in the store collecting dust a unit they found after the moved.. It was a "Aoyue 474" without all the ++ it's a 10+ year old model but with the better pump..

They where asking €100 that was a bit much my counter offer was €70.. so they dropped the price to €90 with shipping ..
Shipping is €7.. so final offer is €83 +€7 shipping total €90..

My question is should i go for it.. of buy the newer  474A++ on ebay €119 plus €20 so €140..
or do you guys recommend me going for the  "SP-1010DR" ??

The only thing i can see that people are complaining about with all these desoldering stations / guns is that the nozzles tend to wear down but if i can buy them from TME in poland they are cheap if they fit the Aoyue.. But i won't know that
until i have the unit here and can measure the unit..

Also there is the question should i give a counter offer ..?? because they state that they would meet me in the middle..
And that's not €90 but rather €85.. or just ask if they are willing to provide the same parts that originally came with the unit.
parts that one could buy in their store..Like cleaning tools, reserve rubber rings, reserve spring for the gun reserve filters and so on..

Would really appreciate your thoughts guys..

TuxKey:
no tips ..guess i'm ok going for it then.

Stan-rus:
Hello everyone, what's news about using this station?  I bought new model with DC pump, but didn't test it yet, because I have lots another urgent job, so I'll make it later.
By the way, TS wrote that new model doesn't have sleep/wake mode. It isn't true. It has these modes.
And works it quiet enough.
I think the problem may be appear that AOYUE makes its own pumps. I'm not sure Chinese may make good pumps. May be there is something made in Japan, the same  to change them?

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