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Ian.M:
As eDavid has just pointed out I may be out of date on current practice and method of communication to the monitoring company for elderly alert systems, so PLEASE DO YOUR OWN RESEARCH.  When parents are involved, second best is not good enough.   I'd still advise a landline and some basic wired phones just to have reliable emergency communications - no critical reliance on handsets being charged and not mislaid and they are much simpler for the less able to operate as long as they've still got reasonable use of one hand.

tooki:

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--- Quote from: Invader75 on February 03, 2019, 03:02:00 pm --- The install is done, cat6 was run underground with the rest of the utilities so I can't add another cat6 unless I just run it down there externally. Likewise with a phone line.
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No conduit? Is that even legal?

There is weatherproof phone cable, of course. You can just run a new line.


--- Quote from: Invader75 on February 03, 2019, 03:02:00 pm ---
The electrician wasn't chosen by us, he came with the people who were installing the annexe.

I just want a simple solution, or answer, to the problem.
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The electrician was not chosen by you but what you wanted done was presumably specified by you. The time to ask for simple solutions was when you specified the work to be done.  Now the simplest solution is probably to just run another cable.

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Chill out fella. Nobody's looking to score point or start an argument. I'm just after some "Beginner" advice. Which is why I posted it in the "Beginner" section.

Yes, it has conduit. The reason why a phone cable wasn't installed was because it couldn't be further from my mind as I never used a regular phone line. This is an annex for my elderly and disabled parents. It was an oversight on my side and not something they would've been thinking about.

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If the conduit is big enough, it should be no problem to fish another cable through it, even if it’s just a thin Cat 3 or something, just for the phone.

richard.cs:

--- Quote from: edavid on February 04, 2019, 12:33:40 am ---
--- Quote from: Ian.M on February 03, 2019, 07:48:32 pm ---Well as its a dwelling for disabled elderly, a high reliability telephone connection that will work if there's a power cut is a must for emergency use.

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In the US, most elderly alert systems are just cell phones with an emergency button.  Is it different in the UK?


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You'll be wanting EN 50134 :-)

Alert systems here need to comply to that standard, which does allow both a PSTN and cellular backhaul but mostly disallows VOIP. Usually there's a box connected to an ordinary phone line with a big red button on it that can also act as a speakerphone, fancier systems have fallback to cellular if there's a fault with the line. Usually there's also a wireless portable alarm button but it has to use a dedicated slice of spectrum for reliability - no ISM bands allowed.

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