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Need help underderstanding graph.
« on: April 06, 2013, 08:46:28 pm »
 :-// New to using scopemeter. I made a measurement using the Fluke 124 connected to a 9 volt battery. I was expecting the graph line to be straight when connected but it looks looks a little jagged. Can anyone explain why ? Pictures of measurment attached.
 

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Re: Need help underderstanding graph.
« Reply #1 on: April 06, 2013, 09:16:55 pm »
If you digitize an analog value there will always be a rounding error, that is what you see on the display. And then there is noise, jitter, stability... What you see is perfectly normal.
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Re: Need help underderstanding graph.
« Reply #2 on: April 06, 2013, 09:21:39 pm »
 :-//Should I see the same jitter when the battery is not connected?
 

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Re: Need help underderstanding graph.
« Reply #3 on: April 06, 2013, 09:29:53 pm »
:-//Should I see the same jitter when the battery is not connected?
They probably have a circuit that detects when the input is zero and then suppress the jitter.
If you look at this official picture from Fluke:



you see the same wiggle...

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Re: Need help underderstanding graph.
« Reply #4 on: April 06, 2013, 09:38:27 pm »
 :-// How do I determine if the jitter is caused from the scope operation or a problem with circuit being measured ?
 

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Re: Need help underderstanding graph.
« Reply #5 on: April 06, 2013, 10:53:44 pm »
:-// How do I determine if the jitter is caused from the scope operation or a problem with circuit being measured ?

One way that often works (but not always) is to change the vertical scale to a lower V/div setting. If the noise has the same variation in number of pixels, then it's probably the scope.  If the noise occupies more vertical pixels at lower V/div settings, then it's likely your circuit.

Averaging can be used to remove noise that is I correlated to the signal.
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Re: Need help underderstanding graph.
« Reply #6 on: April 06, 2013, 11:04:56 pm »
If the scope is unconnected then chances are you will pick up a 50Hz sine wave (or a variation depending on circumstances) that comes from the mains supply, 60Hz if your in the US
 


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