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Offline neoTopic starter

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Bandpass for VU.
« on: August 25, 2017, 05:29:46 am »
First off, accuracy is not the goal. Pretty lights are the goal, and with pretty lights in mind would the below circuit in conjunction with an lm3916 work in a relative sense?
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Re: Bandpass for VU.
« Reply #1 on: August 25, 2017, 10:47:48 am »
You will have poor frequency band resolution. And of course signal loss.

Attached a sim, you can play with values to control the response.


There are 4 channel switched capacitor filters -

http://www.newark.com/c/semiconductors-ics/filters-active/switched-capacitor-filters?DM_PersistentCookieCreated=true


You could do it via FFT -

http://mikami.a.la9.jp/meiji/b3/AN42877_12.pdf

https://community.cypress.com/thread/28886



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Re: Bandpass for VU.
« Reply #2 on: August 25, 2017, 03:36:48 pm »
Thank you but the math makes my head spin.
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Re: Bandpass for VU.
« Reply #3 on: August 25, 2017, 03:47:43 pm »
You should at least be changing the capacitor values in each band so you don't end up with silly values like 7.6 meg.  :) 

If you get the outputs from each band to be reasonably close, you should be able to trim it so each LM3916 shows the proper level with a (same amplitude, different frequency) test signal in each band and make a reasonable looking "spectral analyzer". 

Personally, I would do it with active filters for the filters.  It would only take a few op-amps to be able to make the filters much, much, much better....
 

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Re: Bandpass for VU.
« Reply #4 on: August 25, 2017, 04:22:57 pm »
You should at least be changing the capacitor values in each band so you don't end up with silly values like 7.6 meg.  :) 

If you get the outputs from each band to be reasonably close, you should be able to trim it so each LM3916 shows the proper level with a (same amplitude, different frequency) test signal in each band and make a reasonable looking "spectral analyzer". 

Personally, I would do it with active filters for the filters.  It would only take a few op-amps to be able to make the filters much, much, much better....

I got a better idea, use the MSGEQ7 with a different display, if i could get it to work.  Also those values were spit out by calculator,  as i said i cannot get my head around the math.
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Re: Bandpass for VU.
« Reply #5 on: August 25, 2017, 11:55:54 pm »
Your filters are very poor, an RC as a highpass and an RC as a lowpass that affect each other and have very gradual slopes.
You said "an LM3916" but you need four LM3916 ICs with one bandpass filter at each IC's input.
 

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Re: Bandpass for VU.
« Reply #6 on: August 26, 2017, 03:42:51 am »
Your filters are very poor, an RC as a highpass and an RC as a lowpass that affect each other and have very gradual slopes.
You said "an LM3916" but you need four LM3916 ICs with one bandpass filter at each IC's input.

I meant an lm3916 per filter, thank you for noticing and they are poor, their also as far as my math skills will take me in the world of bandpass filters.
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