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Electronics => Beginners => Topic started by: alank2 on July 12, 2017, 06:32:39 pm
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Hi,
I'm trying to contact a guy in Japan through a webform and I don't know what to put in!!!
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It looks like a standard captcha, so I guess you have to type in the text with the blueish background. So even if you could read it you are a bit out of luck...
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I translated the bottom part:
Please enter the letters written in the picture with numbers.
Example) "Ichi ni san" ? "1234"
? Please input in half size numerals.
Even I remember Ichi=1, ni=2, san=3, but that isn't helping me much!
I don't know what a half size numeral is either...
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I'm sure someone will respond with the correct translation, but then if you go back to the site the captcha will be different :palm:
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It seems to be staying for now, but you are probably right it will say "expired" when I try to submit it later...
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I see a 6 in your picture, but the others :-//
(https://i.imgur.com/ONzMCNg.jpg)
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I appreciate that you like a good challenge!!! Thanks!!!! :)
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I had a situation like this once that I solved using a screencap and OCR under linux. I forget what program I used but there are a bunch of OCR programs that work in CJK languages, screencap, import into OCR, then Google translate?
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Oh and by the way, half size numerals = half width numerals or better: the way we use them, so just 1234 should do.
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I tried a couple of image translation sites; no luck.
Oh and by the way, half size numerals = half width numerals or better: the way we use them, so just 1234 should do.
I'm not following - what is a half width numeral?
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Nightmare - Roman text captchas are bad enough.
I would guess that half size numerals mean lowercase - this is usual for captchas (I found that out the hard way!).
Assuming that they must be individual characters that can be typed on a keyboard - does this help:
https://www.branah.com/japanese (https://www.branah.com/japanese)
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I'm not following - what is a half width numeral?
That is what we type if I understand it correctly, so use 1234 or 4731 or whatever the original captcha shows.
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half-size are normal ASCII numerals. See https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Half-width_kana (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Half-width_kana)
it looks like you only need the numerals from 0 to 9 (larger values are different).
(http://www.alfabetos.net/japanese/pics/num-EN-numbers-in-japanese.gif)
PA0PBZ: the image you posted are the kana for pronouncing the numbers. They would not be written that way.
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PA0PBZ: the image you posted are the kana for pronouncing the numbers. They would not be written that way.
Maybe not, but they look similar to what is in the captcha :-//
If you look at the example they give for 1 2 3 4 I can find these in the image I posted.
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PA0PBZ: the image you posted are the kana for pronouncing the numbers. They would not be written that way.
Maybe not, but they look similar to what is in the captcha :-//
Correct, the captcha seems to be using phonetic spelling, at least in part. I don't know the first bit, but I clearly see "roku" and "zero" (6 and 0).
It's been over 40 years since I was in Japan, and I had only a basic knowledge of the language even then.
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It seems they are using both katakana and hiragana, studied them loooong ago
ichi roku roku zero
1 6 6 0
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You almost got it right PA0PBZ ans MAster tech got it in one :)
You wrote it like japanese normaly write it using Hiragana, but some of the capcha is Katakana, to make it less machine readabel
see atatched table
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It gave an error, probably expired.
new one:
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8993
Use this table together with the other one above
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Table_katakana.svg
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8660
Edit: didn't see the new one, 8993 is right
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I tried 8660...
Another new one:
thanks everyone!!
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1314
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I appreciate the help, it came up with an error which translates to:
? not post of alphanumeric characters only is accepted.
I should be clicking the LEFT button, right?
Another:
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8111
left button send right button cancel
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It responds with:
?????????????????????
translate:? not post of alphanumeric characters only is accepted.
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Here is the response--ideas?
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It responds with:
?????????????????????
translate:? not post of alphanumeric characters only is accepted.
I'm guessing it expects a Japanese character encoding or something?
You may have to set up IME (if on Windows).
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I put some Japanese chars in my text - will that help maybe?
New capcha:
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4059
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4059
but as already mentioned Japanese IME versions can vrite numbers in 2 different ways (slightly different size)
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Thank you guys!! I believe it accepted it. You guys are awesome!! I'm checking with a site that used to make pcb's for retro computers to see if they have a ram/rom/fdd emulator.
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isn't it supposed to be two byte characters?
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Glad we could help
according to original Japanese text it should be Roman numbers, so standard ASCII,
but since it some times didn't work, maybe we ran into some kind of time out in the translation process.
Hope you find what you are looking for, my experience with Japanese is that they often read and write a reasonable English but seldom speaks English.
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isn't it supposed to be two byte characters?
There are thousands of Kanji and other CJK characters, which requires multibyte encodings. But there are multiple incompatible coding standards, including Shift-JIS, ISO-2022, UCS-2, or UTF-8. In this case, the web page expects only ASCII numerals from 0 to 9 (the "half-width" characters).
There are multibyte encodings of "full-width" 0 to 9, which would be outside the ASCII repertoire. Probably it is more work to accept those in a web form (the client and server must agree on an encoding). Viewing Japanese web sites often requires the text encoding to be fixed manually, so I take it this is still a problem.
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Glad we could help
Hope you find what you are looking for, my experience with Japanese is that they often read and write a reasonable English but seldom speaks English.
I hope they respond, or I'll have to try to translate my English question into Japanese and resubmit that - if that happens I'll be asking in this thread for help with the capcha again.