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Offline kncaTopic starter

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Earth yourself
« on: June 02, 2011, 09:38:19 pm »


hello, i did the test the guy do in the video, and well, i get the same results,
when i am near my notebook i get 15-25v of lecture in the multimeter and when i touch  ground i get near to zero

the guy is just touching ground with the multimeter and positive to his body, and then when he touch ground at same time, all EMF that
hits him, become like out of his body,

doing this is healthy ? whats exactly what multimeter is showing? is this video a "scam" ?  what do you think ?
 

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Re: Earth yourself
« Reply #1 on: June 02, 2011, 09:57:34 pm »
Sorry to reply with a question, but I am very curious. What is your background knca?
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Re: Earth yourself
« Reply #2 on: June 02, 2011, 10:29:57 pm »
what is my background?
i think i don't understand your question sorry, i am from spain and english is not my native lang :s

what you mean with my background?
 

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Re: Earth yourself
« Reply #3 on: June 02, 2011, 11:31:24 pm »
This is a promotion (marketing) video. The only thing you will protect using those ground pads are the equipment and not yourself. This is absolutely essential when you handle electrostatic sensitive devices. But final products like computers, cellphones, etc. are already protected.

Normally when a video has a fireplace on the background it means there will be some sex scene. I don't see any girl…baaaa!
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Re: Earth yourself
« Reply #4 on: June 03, 2011, 12:02:43 am »
what is my background?
i think i don't understand your question sorry, i am from spain and english is not my native lang :s

what you mean with my background?

Student ?
Professional ?
Hobbyist ?

Or just say your age  ;)
 

Offline kncaTopic starter

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Re: Earth yourself
« Reply #5 on: June 03, 2011, 12:36:56 am »
Student, 26 years old


yes its a marketing video, but aside of this... do you think guys, the fact of be grounded isolates you from EMF
that can end up being harmful? or this EMF is not harmful at all and ground yourself is just a no sense thing and dont protect you of nothing?
 

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Re: Earth yourself
« Reply #6 on: June 03, 2011, 12:47:01 am »
If you believe this guy then i have some magic beans i would happily sell you, only a few hundred dollars each, and they cure all your ills as well as stopping EMF :)

I completely LOLed at the line "allowing the earths antioxidant electrical nutrition to come in", there really is a sucker born every minute.
 

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Re: Earth yourself
« Reply #7 on: June 03, 2011, 12:56:42 am »
And I thought speaker cables were bad enough as devices for separating fools and their money.
 

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Re: Earth yourself
« Reply #8 on: June 03, 2011, 01:44:28 am »
"grounding technology" saving your kids and family! but not yourself and your money!
Nature: Evolution and the Illusion of Randomness (Stephen L. Talbott): Its now indisputable that... organisms “expertise” contextualizes its genome, and its nonsense to say that these powers are under the control of the genome being contextualized - Barbara McClintock
 

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Re: Earth yourself
« Reply #9 on: June 03, 2011, 03:17:19 am »
maybe this guy has some good energy harvesting ideas.
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Re: Earth yourself
« Reply #10 on: June 03, 2011, 08:25:11 am »
Thanks knca, what are you studying?

As you might have figured from the replies, this product is a scam, stay away from it. This is the most honest and to the point answer I can provide, and it is coming from people that have nothing to earn from you not buying this product.

Do you know how much this product costs?

Alex
 

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Re: Earth yourself
« Reply #11 on: June 03, 2011, 09:45:00 am »
Ok this guy is a Wack job,   On the other side "Blonde chick at 0:45 sec" can i probe her for emf radiation ??
 
 

Offline kncaTopic starter

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Re: Earth yourself
« Reply #12 on: June 03, 2011, 10:09:58 am »
i study an informatic

Alex yes, everything his web is really expensive, but i can ground myselft with a simple wire anyway,
is not the fact how this video is recorded or at witch price they sell their grounding pads
is the fact to know why this is "a scam" or why not, and what are exactly the  lectures multimeter is returning.

because i did exactly the same test and i get the same result, so to anyone who make it, its easy to think: "oh well thats true, EMF that hits my body are growing when i am near electronic devices and come off of my body when i am touching ground"

so if this is scam can any one make an explanation about why is a scam?

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Re: Earth yourself
« Reply #13 on: June 03, 2011, 10:57:26 am »
See that nice looking room with a fabulous fireplace and expensive looking AV equipment? Well, just think.. You could have all that too if you just learned to talk out of your ass like him :)

Just take a look at the website HERE, and it's plain to see that this guy will sell just about anything at exorbitant prices with an abundance of unbelievable claims....

"What Can Earthing Do For You?
Diffuse the inflammation and improve or eliminate the symptoms of many inflammation-related disorders.
Reduce or eliminate chronic pain.
Improve sleep in most cases.
Increase energy.
Lower stress and promote calmness in the body by cooling down the nervous system and stress hormones.
Normalize the body's biological rhythms.
Thin blood and improve blood pressure and flow.
Relieve muscle tension and headaches.
Lessen hormonal and menstrual symptoms.
Dramatically speed healing and help prevent bedsores.
Reduce or eliminate jet lag.
Protect the body against potentially health-disturbing environmental electromagnetic fields (EMFs).
Accelerate recovery from intense athletic activity."
 


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Re: Earth yourself
« Reply #15 on: June 03, 2011, 11:14:55 am »
You should try the latest in bioelectric technology... the Boostcap Bling(tm)(patent pending).  These caps are 2600 Farads and can hold a whole lot of energy!  These aren't just any boostcaps though.  These caps are treated with the tears of virgin albino Jackalopes, with Bunyip option for those down under!  They'll store and balance your bodies natural bioelectric field to keep you energetic all day long!

There's just as much medical proof behind my on the fly created device there.  I'm sure I could get that guy to sell it though and talk it up just as well as his grounding health benefits pseudoscience. In fact being grounded can be very bad for you if you come in contact with high voltages.  That life extending grounding pad would kill a power company lineman.
« Last Edit: June 03, 2011, 11:18:14 am by Trigger »
 

Offline kncaTopic starter

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Re: Earth yourself
« Reply #16 on: June 03, 2011, 01:08:38 pm »
yes you can make a zapper for 10$ and there is no need to pay 250$
or you can ground yourself with a wire and you dont need to spend 50$ on a grounding pad or 200 in a grounding bed pad

but aside of  teasing about their prices, how its recorded this video, or the fact they include any kind of symptom as a healthy feature to boost sells as a marketing strategy, still no one explained if the fact to ground yourself is really isolating you of "harmful" electromagnetic fields as apparently looks when using a multimeter, or their claims are senseless for this and that reason.

« Last Edit: June 03, 2011, 01:24:05 pm by knca »
 

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Re: Earth yourself
« Reply #17 on: June 03, 2011, 01:16:56 pm »
No,it's nonsense.

OK,you can read varying voltages around a room with a Digital Multimeter,but they are fairly random,& more due to the characteristics
of the meter & leads than anything else.
As far as is known, "voltages" of these levels are completely harmless.
If they were harmful,surely it would be even more harmful to earth yourself,so that the voltages will be reduced by the current flow through
your body. :D
To "isolate" yourself,you would have to wear a wire mesh suit,so the currents would flow on the outside of the suit.

He starts off talking about AC voltages due to the electricity supply,then halfway through says that his "earth" system works because of
the Earth's "natural negative charge".A negative charge would have no effect either way,on an AC signal.
Later he says that the "Dirty Electricity" is an" Electrostatic charge ".
Electrostatic charges have been around since the dawn of time,& have nothing to do with mains electrical supplies.

Towards the end,he starts talking about  "Natural electrical nutrition" or something like that,which screams "Scam" to me.

By the way, did you see the large Electromagnetic field generator in the background?
I'm sitting in front of one too,as it's pretty cold tonight.
Yes! Wood fires generate heat,which is a form of Electromagnetic radiation!

VK6ZGO
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Re: Earth yourself
« Reply #18 on: June 03, 2011, 04:12:06 pm »
All earthing will do is drop your electro-static charge (which does build up from EMF) down to that of the Earth (it is fairly crap for the job but it is the only common reference we have).

Anyone who can show a mechanism for electro-static charge or "background" EMF causing illness will win a nobel prize and make tens of millions of dollars.
 

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Re: Earth yourself
« Reply #19 on: June 03, 2011, 04:13:27 pm »
I’m going to design a portable Faraday cage for humans. 10k€/each seams a good price for initial promotion.
Does anyone help me recording the video? I offer him the first unit! ;D
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Re: Earth yourself
« Reply #20 on: June 03, 2011, 04:51:01 pm »
so if this is scam can any one make an explanation about why is a scam?
because he sell $1 product at $1000 price.
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Offline kncaTopic starter

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Re: Earth yourself
« Reply #21 on: June 03, 2011, 06:24:12 pm »
so if this is scam can any one make an explanation about why is a scam?
because he sell $1 product at $1000 price.


heheh thats another history then,
thing does the work was designed for, 

the main topic is know if the fact of ground yourself is healthy or the lectures the multimeter are showing, are something else than dropping static energy
 

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Re: Earth yourself
« Reply #22 on: June 03, 2011, 08:01:07 pm »
This is a classic example of the fact that potential difference (often referred to as voltage) is always between two points, IMO. What's so special about earth potential? Nothing, it's just a convenient point to tie our mains circuits to. Everything would work just as well if ground were at +10kV above PE, as long as you're isolated from said earth (example: birds on high voltage lines).

As long as you're isolated from the earth (eg. rubber shoes), your potential relative to the earth is irrelevant, just like the high voltage potential of the birds, no current can flow without a connection. If you connect a multimeter, you're making a connection, and you may measure a potential difference, which will eventually discharge through the DMM's input impedance. If you are connected to the earth (eg. by touching a grounded piece of equipment), charge will flow to eliminate the potential, in which case you already accomplished what this $$$ gizmo claims to do.
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Offline Leo Bodnar

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Re: Earth yourself
« Reply #23 on: June 03, 2011, 09:04:50 pm »
Of course this chap does not know what he is talking about but stop and think about this:

Human body is a conductor so essentially an antenna for SW and lower frequencies.

When you ground yourself you become a quarter-wave dipole tuned to about 44MHz.  As with any antenna there will be RF current flowing through it. 
There is RF power dissipated in the body as well as RF current is flowing through it.  You don't even need good grounding - shoes would work OK as a coupling capacitor.
Is this good?  I don't know.

It would be interesting to integrate typical received RF power over e.g. 50kHz .. 50MHz range taking into account efficiency of 1.8m vertical dipole.  It may well end up in milliwatt's range.

Reverse is true too.  Most laptops or devices with switched power supplies have a floating ground which still contains harmonics from main switching frequency.  FCC and similar organisations are supposed to look after this but any RF signal coupled via your body will be irradiated and partially absorbed by the body tissues.
 

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Re: Earth yourself
« Reply #24 on: June 03, 2011, 09:22:54 pm »
This is a classic example of the fact that potential is always between two points, IMO.

No, potential is local property of the field. 
Potential difference is probably what you meant?
Potential itself does not show up in field equations - only in its differential form.  So what you assign as zero potential does not affect real world physics.
 


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