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Offline sam1275Topic starter

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(Ended) Electronic motor failure
« on: July 25, 2018, 02:07:56 pm »
Hello.
There is an AC fan that used to work constantly for a long time, it got stuck several months earlier, I took it apart and cleaned the dust and mud, then add some oil, then it recovers.
But here is a second time, but this time after I make sure it can rotate freely, it still do not work, the motor just vibrates/makes low frequency sound when power is delivered, what could broke and how to troubleshoot it?
Thanks.

Edit: Thank you everyone.
I explained everything in the latest post: https://www.eevblog.com/forum/beginners/electronic-motor-failure/msg1704047/#msg1704047
« Last Edit: July 27, 2018, 10:56:01 am by sam1275 »
 

Offline Andy Watson

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Re: Electronic motor failure
« Reply #1 on: July 25, 2018, 02:10:14 pm »
Does it have a capacitor?
 

Offline Doctorandus_P

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Re: Electronic motor failure
« Reply #2 on: July 25, 2018, 03:36:18 pm »
What happens if you give the motor a spin by hand before you apply power?
Does it keep rotating (in the direction you spinned it) or does it coast to a halt.

Is it a low powered fan, which won't cut off your fingers?
Then you might try spinning it after power is applied.
 

Offline james_s

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Re: Electronic motor failure
« Reply #3 on: July 26, 2018, 04:21:15 am »
If it spins freely by hand but just hums when you power it, that's a classic symptom of a PSC motor with a faulty or disconnected run capacitor.
 

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Re: Electronic motor failure
« Reply #4 on: July 26, 2018, 03:15:19 pm »
I never had much luck fixing/cleaning the bearings of such fans.
A clean/re-oil usually lasted about two weeks.
If the bearing/fan got stuck, after a while the thermal fuse would let go.
Those bearings are bush-type synthered bronze bearings, soaked with oil.
Just adding extra oil does not seem to work.
May be if you would boil the bearing in oil it would help. Or just get new bearings.
But then it gets to the point  where it is simpler/cheaper to get a new fan, at the end that is what I did.

EDIT:
I did try grease as well, did not really help either.

Good luck, Peter
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Offline james_s

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Re: Electronic motor failure
« Reply #5 on: July 26, 2018, 03:18:54 pm »
I've found that adding grease instead of oil sometimes works well, so long as the bearing has not worn badly from running dry. I used automotive wheel bearing grease.
 

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Re: Electronic motor failure
« Reply #6 on: July 26, 2018, 10:48:31 pm »
What happens if you give the motor a spin by hand before you apply power?
Does it keep rotating (in the direction you spun it) or does it coast to a halt.

Just saying.
 

Offline sam1275Topic starter

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Re: Electronic motor failure
« Reply #7 on: July 27, 2018, 10:54:01 am »
Sorry for the late reply.
Yes it has a capacitor in serial.
It's not a high powered one that will hurt me.
It had a extremely weak force to rotate, not easy to feel.
However everything ended today, after I took off the screws, I pulled it apart, and yes it's really apart, the wire just break completely and everything are in a very aged state that lots of rubber/plastic parts flies everywhere.
I think that's because the long time jamming made the motor too hot. RIP...
Thank you everyone.
 


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