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Offline DarximorTopic starter

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Find right resistor value for a project
« on: June 27, 2020, 04:50:25 pm »
Hello,

As a beginner, I would like to do a light panel like in this video :


In summary, it require a 12v adapter and 6v to power on a screen.
I understand why he use two resistor of the same value (180ohms) to split the voltage and get 6v from the 12v adapter.

But I don't have any 180ohms lying around. What will happen if I use two resistors with another value (two resistors of 9 ohms for example ?)
 

Offline KMoffett

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Re: Find right resistor value for a project
« Reply #1 on: June 27, 2020, 08:12:00 pm »
220Ω and 1KΩ in parallel are common and close...180.32786885246Ω  ;)
or 390Ω and 330Ω...179
« Last Edit: June 27, 2020, 08:14:40 pm by KMoffett »
 
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Offline Benta

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Re: Find right resistor value for a project
« Reply #2 on: June 27, 2020, 08:29:30 pm »
Nice idea, I like it :)

But frankly, I'd forget about the resistors and look for the +5 V supply trace on the PCB (probably called VDD or VCC) and connect the two inputs to that directly. Much easier.

 

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Re: Find right resistor value for a project
« Reply #3 on: June 27, 2020, 09:00:42 pm »
Just put 40 of your 9Ω resistors in a big long string, and it'll be fine…!   :-DD

But a little more seriously, if it's just a digital on/off input, then you generally want the biggest resistors that'll deliver enough power to turn it on reliably, and a couple hundred ohms is a pretty safe bet, poking it with a generous fist full of mA…  If you can get away with a pair of 1KΩ's, even better…  the more resistance you can put between those wires the better.

If it's a current-dependant line (can't think of any reason why it would be), than you can probably go up or down from that a little, but will want to stick pretty close.  I'd say he just picked 180Ω because it's a reasonably safe bet for inputs like that, or because he just had a whole bunch of them laying around, and they happened to work.

And, as Benta said…  even better if it's already available right there on the board somewhere.
 
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Offline DarximorTopic starter

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Re: Find right resistor value for a project
« Reply #4 on: June 28, 2020, 09:12:10 pm »
Thanks all for your answers. KMoffett, I don't manage to find any of these expect 1KΩ but I get the idea and I found many others on few dead power supply.
I put my multimeter on Ohmmeter mode, these are the value I've found, with the 2000Ω calibration for most of them.


https://ibb.co/23sRPTQ

https://ibb.co/5xMK32P

Find +5v on the pcb seems to be a really good idea, but I'm questionning myself about why the guy doesn't do this in the video, and if the only purpose of
+5v is to power on all the circuitry, will it work or not. Maybe I will give it a try before using resistor !

Fredderic your answer help me to get the motivation of desoldering some others resistors, and I manage to find a couple of them of 600Ω. But they
are a little bit different than the other (all 600Ω only), a little bit transparent I'd say. Are they really resistors, maybe zener diode ?
« Last Edit: June 28, 2020, 09:21:58 pm by Darximor »
 

Offline Benta

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Re: Find right resistor value for a project
« Reply #5 on: June 28, 2020, 09:39:52 pm »

Find +5v on the pcb seems to be a really good idea, but I'm questionning myself about why the guy doesn't do this in the video, and if the only purpose of +5v is to power on all the circuitry, will it work or not. Maybe I will give it a try before using resistor !

That's two questions :)

Why the guy doesn't do it in the video? Probably because he didn't think about it. Or had too little knowledge.

Second, the idea is not to power the circuit via the resistors, the circuit handles this itself from the +12 V supply. The purpose is just to connect the two logic inputs to a low-power +5 V source from somewhere. The best source being the board itself.

BTW, the guy should take a soldering course. I've seldom seen such lousy joints.

« Last Edit: June 28, 2020, 09:51:07 pm by Benta »
 
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Offline DarximorTopic starter

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Re: Find right resistor value for a project
« Reply #6 on: June 29, 2020, 12:56:06 pm »
Thanks Benta, good news, I managed to find all the pins I needed, I think. Here is a photo of what I will wire, is this correct ?

https://drive.google.com/file/d/1atnCrcAdGbxw2ciX4ajEPEwjV8mTj4zC/view?usp=sharing

In my case :

PWM = PWM_LED
LED_EN = LED_ENIN
VLED = VLED
VDD = VDDIN (I think that VDDIN is what I'm looking for, and AVDD is not, I'm not sure)

Ground are really easy to find, there is a lot gnd1, gnd2... I suppose I can wire a random one

I manage to found datasheet of the panel I use, I have 5 of them (http://www.hbx168.com/upload/file/21.pdf)
According to this, VDD should be able to supply 4.0v
« Last Edit: June 29, 2020, 05:11:49 pm by Darximor »
 

Offline DarximorTopic starter

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Re: Find right resistor value for a project
« Reply #7 on: June 30, 2020, 09:30:50 pm »
Update : I don't found any +5v on the board for now so I used USB power for the two PWM and LED_EN, it doesn't work either.

The srceen I use is a slim design screen, with this datasheet :
https://datasheetspdf.com/pdf/1139039/BOE/NT156WHM-N32/1

I tried with another screen that is more close to the original from the guy in the video, (I think this is the most common type of 15.6 LED from laptop in the last decade), here it is:

https://datasheetspdf.com/pdf-file/705591/AUO/B156XW02-V2/1

And it worked very well ! With the same wiring and same power supplies.

This is weird because they seems to have same behaviour according to the datasheets. (expect from the connector).

There should be something I missed, any idea ?
 


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