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Title: Happy PI day (a day late) and a question
Post by: dsharp02 on March 15, 2016, 03:58:14 pm
Was reading this:  http://tauday.com/ (http://tauday.com/)

and it got me thinking about RC time constants and how tau is used as a shorthand.

If the Tau-ists had their way calculating cutoff frequencies for RC filters could get really confusing.

Fc = 1 / (2 * pi * R * C)
(substituting tau, the RC time constant) =>   Fc = 1 / (2 * pi * tau)
(substituting tau, the mathematical constant) => Fc = 1 / ( _tau_ * tau)

So I guess the question is tau? or pi?

 :popcorn:

Title: Re: Happy PI day (a day late) and a question
Post by: ericloewe on March 15, 2016, 06:01:54 pm
Silly answer:

Pau = 1.5 * pi is the way to go. It'll please nobody, so nobody will feel left out.

Proper answer:

Notice how next to nothing is abbreviated with the letter pi. Since pi has been the traditional constant used, everything else more or less decided not to use the letter pi. Had tau been the "one true constant", I'd expect the opposite to happen - the letter tau practically reserved for 2pi and the letter pi more or less free to use in most contexts.
Title: Re: Happy PI day (a day late) and a question
Post by: TimFox on March 15, 2016, 09:19:01 pm
I like "pi" because of the Euler equation: [ e ^ (i pi) ] + 1 = 0.
This simple equation contains e, i,  pi, 1, and 0 -- truly fundamental constants.
Title: Re: Happy PI day (a day late) and a question
Post by: IanB on March 15, 2016, 09:30:10 pm
It only needs one sign change: \$e^{i\tau} - 1 = 0\$
Title: Re: Happy PI day (a day late) and a question
Post by: ericloewe on March 15, 2016, 09:42:37 pm
Congratulations. You just proved that "pi vs tau" is an equivalent(ly silly) discussion to "plus vs minus".
Title: Re: Happy PI day (a day late) and a question
Post by: Cerebus on March 17, 2016, 11:40:46 pm
I like "pi" because of the Euler equation: [ e ^ (i pi) ] + 1 = 0.
This simple equation contains e, i,  pi, 1, and 0 -- truly fundamental constants.

So, we have pi day. Why not "e day" and "i day"? The latter I propose belongs on the 29th of February.
Title: Re: Happy PI day (a day late) and a question
Post by: ericloewe on March 18, 2016, 12:01:45 pm
I like "pi" because of the Euler equation: [ e ^ (i pi) ] + 1 = 0.
This simple equation contains e, i,  pi, 1, and 0 -- truly fundamental constants.

So, we have pi day. Why not "e day" and "i day"? The latter I propose belongs on the 29th of February.

Because it only happens once every four pi/2?