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High Voltage Op Amps
« on: June 29, 2022, 12:40:58 am »
Why would you use a high voltage Op Amp instead of resistor dividers  etc.?

Higher input impedance ?    Faster  rise time?   Other
 

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Re: High Voltage Op Amps
« Reply #1 on: June 29, 2022, 12:47:57 am »
Some applications require or are made simpler with a high voltage operational amplifier.  It is possible to bootstrap a low voltage operational amplifier for higher voltage operation or use level shifters but this can get complicated fast.
 

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Re: High Voltage Op Amps
« Reply #2 on: June 29, 2022, 02:20:04 am »
for stuff like electrometers, maybe

when you come across the need it will be obvious

when you experiment with modified op-amp circuits, you will likely experience frustration. I recommend just getting HV op-amps if you can. The modification of a LV op amp to HV op amp is like something that you should be expect to be paid for, since in most cases it just a BOM cost reduction based on opportunity for certain parts and volumes of scale etc, unless you need something specific, which can be effected by the modification you made.
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Re: High Voltage Op Amps
« Reply #3 on: June 29, 2022, 06:12:08 am »
I was looking into high voltage opamps to make a simulated inductor / gyrator for an audio amplifier. But far to expensive for the ones I need.
 

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Re: High Voltage Op Amps
« Reply #4 on: June 29, 2022, 06:16:39 am »
A divider is not an alternative to an amplifier, it is more like the opposite direction. It is only a few special cases that a divider directly at the input may allow to get away without a high voltage amplifier (more like a buffer).

Operational amplifier are conventient building blocks and sometimes the more normal models for a 30-40V supply are not enough. It is possibly to build an amplifier from separate parts (this may include a more more normal OP-amp, but could also be fully discrete). For higher voltage this is sometimes done, as the choice of high voltage OP-amps is limited and power dissipation can become an issue. So the normal SO8 or similar case may not be such a good option.
 

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Re: High Voltage Op Amps
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Re: High Voltage Op Amps
« Reply #6 on: June 29, 2022, 10:49:46 am »
The depeletion mode mosfets are a neat way for bootstrapping, but this only works easy for a buffer and without much capacitive load.
 

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Re: High Voltage Op Amps
« Reply #7 on: June 29, 2022, 12:45:32 pm »
I was looking into high voltage opamps to make a simulated inductor / gyrator for an audio amplifier. But far to expensive for the ones I need.

The TI OPA462 might be worth considering, not too expensive (~$20) and somewhat available. We recently selected and used ~300 of these in an experimental phased array controller (basically a 16 bit 256 channel HV AWG), and they have some "additional" features like Overload indication and Enable.

https://www.ti.com/lit/ds/symlink/opa462.pdf

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Re: High Voltage Op Amps
« Reply #8 on: June 29, 2022, 02:52:23 pm »
When a high output voltage is required.

It's also possible to add components around an existing op-amp to increase the output voltage and current.
 


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