Author Topic: Help diagnosing power supply fault in Philips DVD player  (Read 2735 times)

0 Members and 1 Guest are viewing this topic.

Offline BirstallTopic starter

  • Contributor
  • Posts: 29
  • Country: us
Help diagnosing power supply fault in Philips DVD player
« on: December 02, 2020, 06:36:44 pm »
I have a cheap Philips DVP3680/F7 DVD player, I have replaced two capacitors already and the thing is down again. It will not power up.
I tried Philips and had no joy getting a schematic. Nothing has shown up on Google nor can I find an FCC # to check if they have anything.
Any suggestions would be most appreciated.
« Last Edit: December 12, 2020, 09:31:44 pm by Birstall »
 

Offline Labrat101

  • Regular
  • **
  • Posts: 688
  • Country: 00
  • Renovating Old Test Equipment & Calibration ..
Re: Schematics
« Reply #1 on: December 02, 2020, 07:16:19 pm »
I suggest you look in the Repair section there are many Manuals
Pictures are helpful
You did not look that Hard . when searching use circuit diagram . as well ..

  https://www.manualslib.com/manual/1546439/Philips-Dvp3680kx.html

« Last Edit: December 02, 2020, 07:24:23 pm by Labrat101 »
"   All Started With A BIG Bang!! .  .   & Magic Smoke  ".
 

Offline BirstallTopic starter

  • Contributor
  • Posts: 29
  • Country: us
Re: Schematics
« Reply #2 on: December 03, 2020, 11:48:41 pm »
Thank you and apologize for not trying harder. I really did look a but did not use "circuit diagram" in my search. Mea culpa!
 

Offline Labrat101

  • Regular
  • **
  • Posts: 688
  • Country: 00
  • Renovating Old Test Equipment & Calibration ..
Re: Schematics
« Reply #3 on: December 04, 2020, 02:03:08 pm »
Thank you and apologize for not trying harder. I really did look a but did not use "circuit diagram" in my search. Mea culpa!
I hope that link will solves you problem.
And get your player up and running.
Good luck.
"   All Started With A BIG Bang!! .  .   & Magic Smoke  ".
 
The following users thanked this post: Birstall

Offline BirstallTopic starter

  • Contributor
  • Posts: 29
  • Country: us
Help diagnosing power supply fault in Philips DVD player"
« Reply #4 on: December 12, 2020, 07:56:28 pm »
Well a week or two later and I am no further forward. The player will not power up.

Looking at the attached circuit diagram for the power supply, I have tested the input voltage, bridge rectifying diodes, several capacitors and downstream diodes and resistors. (All out of circuit and tested ok).

What I can't figure out and would really appreciate some advice on, is what voltage I should be looking for at certain points along the circuit.
The only notated voltage is what looks like -12v after PD10.

I know this is a cheap DVD player that I can replace for $30 but persevering with this is the experience that I need.

« Last Edit: December 12, 2020, 09:35:22 pm by Birstall »
 

Offline james_s

  • Super Contributor
  • ***
  • Posts: 21611
  • Country: us
Re: Schematics
« Reply #5 on: December 12, 2020, 08:00:44 pm »
There are two outputs, what voltage to you measure on both of those? They are linked by being part of the same transformer so if one of them has the correct voltage, the other is very likely to as well.
 

Offline retiredfeline

  • Frequent Contributor
  • **
  • Posts: 572
  • Country: au
Re: Schematics
« Reply #6 on: December 12, 2020, 08:04:47 pm »
I think that's an underscore, not a minus. Looking at the polarities of the diodes, I'm guessing +12V. Vcc might be +5V. That TL431 in the feedback loop is a regulator. Look at the datasheet and do the maths with the feedback voltage divider and you'll get the Vcc that it's trying to regulate to.

And you really need a better title for this thread.
« Last Edit: December 12, 2020, 08:07:53 pm by retiredfeline »
 
The following users thanked this post: Birstall

Offline Benta

  • Super Contributor
  • ***
  • Posts: 6298
  • Country: de
Re: Schematics
« Reply #7 on: December 12, 2020, 08:32:19 pm »
Pretty classic flyback converter using Infineon Coolset ICE3B0365J.
VCC should be +5.1 V.
P_12V should (duh) be +12 V.

« Last Edit: December 12, 2020, 08:38:13 pm by Benta »
 
The following users thanked this post: Birstall

Online IanB

  • Super Contributor
  • ***
  • Posts: 12445
  • Country: us
Re: Schematics
« Reply #8 on: December 12, 2020, 08:35:17 pm »
And you really need a better title for this thread.

Seconded. For example, "Help diagnosing power supply fault in Philips DVD player"
 
The following users thanked this post: Birstall

Offline BirstallTopic starter

  • Contributor
  • Posts: 29
  • Country: us
Re: Help diagnosing power supply fault in Philips DVD player
« Reply #9 on: December 12, 2020, 09:34:08 pm »
Thanks done that.

I have checked the voltage at PD10 and it reads 13.84 VDC
 

Offline Benta

  • Super Contributor
  • ***
  • Posts: 6298
  • Country: de
Re: Help diagnosing power supply fault in Philips DVD player
« Reply #10 on: December 12, 2020, 10:02:38 pm »
I have checked the voltage at PD10 and it reads 13.84 VDC

Prolly OK. It's an unregulated output anyway.
More important is VCC, which should be pretty close to 5.1 V.


 
The following users thanked this post: Birstall

Offline GerritMax

  • Contributor
  • Posts: 20
  • Country: gb
Re: Help diagnosing power supply fault in Philips DVD player
« Reply #11 on: December 12, 2020, 10:45:53 pm »
I don't know if this file is of any use.
 
The following users thanked this post: Birstall

Offline BirstallTopic starter

  • Contributor
  • Posts: 29
  • Country: us
Re: Help diagnosing power supply fault in Philips DVD player
« Reply #12 on: December 13, 2020, 05:48:58 pm »
I tested the VCC pin on the CE3B0365J chip and found about 1.7 DCV.

I then put the probe on the other pins for curiosities sake. I must have shorted between pins 3 and 4 with the probe and was entertained with a flash and a lump taken out of the chip.  :palm: I also discovered a nearby 1.5 ohm SM resistor was also fried.

I know I know but I am a beginner and that's the way I will learn eh?
Unfortunately I don't know if I have found the problem or created another. The fuse is intact as are the traces around my accident.

Whadya think give up or belly up to the bar?
 

Offline Benta

  • Super Contributor
  • ***
  • Posts: 6298
  • Country: de
Re: Help diagnosing power supply fault in Philips DVD player
« Reply #13 on: December 13, 2020, 06:46:17 pm »
Give it up. The IC's dead, and who knows what else.

A tip: as a beginner, don't start with probing around on the high voltage/mains side. You've seen the effect on the circuit, and the effects on you might be much worse.

 

Offline BirstallTopic starter

  • Contributor
  • Posts: 29
  • Country: us
Re: Help diagnosing power supply fault in Philips DVD player
« Reply #14 on: December 13, 2020, 07:06:28 pm »
Give it up. The IC's dead, and who knows what else.

A tip: as a beginner, don't start with probing around on the high voltage/mains side. You've seen the effect on the circuit, and the effects on you might be much worse.


I appreciate the advice.
I have an isolation transformer. I sat on my left hand before poking around with the DMM probe so safety wise I think I was being careful.
« Last Edit: December 13, 2020, 07:08:26 pm by Birstall »
 

Offline james_s

  • Super Contributor
  • ***
  • Posts: 21611
  • Country: us
Re: Help diagnosing power supply fault in Philips DVD player
« Reply #15 on: December 13, 2020, 07:50:52 pm »
Well it's a ridiculously simple power supply so if the IC is still available it wouldn't be too hard to fix. It sounds like it was working before you started poking around in it though which suggests the fault is somewhere in the rest of the DVD player in which case there is not much point in repairing the power supply unless you just want a challenge.
 

Offline Benta

  • Super Contributor
  • ***
  • Posts: 6298
  • Country: de
Re: Help diagnosing power supply fault in Philips DVD player
« Reply #16 on: December 13, 2020, 09:11:09 pm »
Give it up. The IC's dead, and who knows what else.

A tip: as a beginner, don't start with probing around on the high voltage/mains side. You've seen the effect on the circuit, and the effects on you might be much worse.


I appreciate the advice.
I have an isolation transformer. I sat on my left hand before poking around with the DMM probe so safety wise I think I was being careful.

That's better than beginner, don't undersell yourself. :)

 
The following users thanked this post: Birstall


Share me

Digg  Facebook  SlashDot  Delicious  Technorati  Twitter  Google  Yahoo
Smf