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Offline markferrinoTopic starter

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Lithium Ion Battery Upgrade Question
« on: June 14, 2023, 05:13:27 am »
I'm pretty new to this.

I have a voice recorder with a 3.7v 850mah lithium ion battery. I'd like to solder in an upgraded replacement that has a capacity of 2000mah (also 3.7v).

Afterwards when I plug it in to charge, will it charge the new battery to full, or do similar such devices typically include something that governs/limits the amount of charge to that of the original installed [850mah] battery (i.e. programming in the ic, for example, etc)?
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Offline JohanH

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Re: Lithium Ion Battery Upgrade Question
« Reply #1 on: June 14, 2023, 06:47:41 am »
I've done this on a couple of devices and it's worked fine. It's unlikely that such devices monitor battery capacity. But you probably won't know until you try.
 

Offline MrAl

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Re: Lithium Ion Battery Upgrade Question
« Reply #2 on: June 14, 2023, 12:41:01 pm »
I'm pretty new to this.

I have a voice recorder with a 3.7v 850mah lithium ion battery. I'd like to solder in an upgraded replacement that has a capacity of 2000mah (also 3.7v).

Afterwards when I plug it in to charge, will it charge the new battery to full, or do similar such devices typically include something that governs/limits the amount of charge to that of the original installed [850mah] battery (i.e. programming in the ic, for example, etc)?

Hi,

Just make sure you get a battery with welded on tabs don't solder to the battery.  You can then solder to the tabs.
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Online BradC

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Re: Lithium Ion Battery Upgrade Question
« Reply #3 on: June 14, 2023, 12:47:03 pm »
As other have said, it'll be fine. It'll take longer to charge and it'll run for longer. I've even put upgraded cells in a laptop that has the capacity hard coded into the BMS. It just takes longer to reach 100% and it sits at 100% until it discharges to about the original capacity, then starts to drop off. Strange, but does the job.
 

Offline AndyBeez

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Re: Lithium Ion Battery Upgrade Question
« Reply #4 on: June 14, 2023, 05:49:01 pm »
Open up the target board and take a look at what chip is providing the charge control function. Most charge control chips including the jellybean TP4056 set maximum charge current with a programming resistor (RPROG). For a bigger battery capacity you might be able to up-rate RPROG at the same time.
 

Offline markferrinoTopic starter

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Re: Lithium Ion Battery Upgrade Question
« Reply #5 on: June 15, 2023, 10:10:02 am »
Thank you all for your help. I'll give it a shot and see how it goes.

@MrAl I'll be sure to solder to the tabs of the battery

@AndyBeez Way beyond my understanding, but appreciate your advice nonetheless.
 


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