what is the most relevant programming language for ee?

[bd139]

Yes.

Just a hilarious reference here: http://www.stroustrup.com/1995_Java_whitepaper.pdf

Note the domain.

[brucehoult]

>Nothing in the example code that comes with Arduino or on the Arduino or Wiring examples web sites uses:

So what?

I probably should quit while i am ahead since "So what?" sinks that argument, but....

You are utterly and absolutely sure that no third party library ANYWHERE uses Templates or Multiple Inheritance?    I am sorry but that is the sort of semantic hair splitting that comes when you engage in a religious argument.   The arduino IDE uses and supports C++.    The claim that no embedded project uses C++ is just nonsense.    The one feature of C++ that tends NOT to be implemented on MCUs is new/delete and that is simply because many mcus lack a proper memory controller.

Say what? Your post was already well into "wrong" and "either didn't read or didn't understand what I wrote" territory. But this isn't even wrong.

New&delete (along with the underlying malloc&free, which they are just a type-safe wrapper around) have *nothing whatsoever* to do with a memory controller, proper or otherwise.

Your other posts have since established you as a nutter so I'm not going to reply further to you.

[Howardlong]

New&delete (along with the underlying malloc&free, which they are just a type-safe wrapper around) have *nothing whatsoever* to do with a memory controller, proper or otherwise.

I tend to agree, we've been using malloc/free and similar long before integrated memory controllers or even MMUs became a thing, let alone ubiquitous. Think of all those DOS real mode applications, including Windows 3.x in real mode, so in effect anything that ran on the original PC and PC/XT.

[bd139]

It's even way older than that as well:

alloc: https://github.com/dspinellis/unix-history-repo/blob/92376cead83f002b6c03f26e4b17a8fbf92662b3/s4.s#L3

free: https://github.com/dspinellis/unix-history-repo/blob/92376cead83f002b6c03f26e4b17a8fbf92662b3/s4.s#L31

And that's pre-C (PDP-7 by the looks)

[bsfeechannel]

>Every time you say C++ you give C free publicity.   

Please don't feed the trolls :-)

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Crazy Pete

I thought YOU were trolling. That's why my sarcastic reply. However, if you're really serious about your concepts, you have a lot to learn.

Just for the record. I learned C. Then I learned C++. I had absolutely no difficulty with C++ because of that. I encourage everyone to learn both languages. In whatever order they like.

C and C++ are different languages, created in different circumstances for different purposes in different times. In common, both are great and influential. Each in its own way.

And religion is a (fascinating) object of study of science that involves archaeology, geography, history, sociology, psychology, anthropology, philosophy, political science, linguistics, semiotics, etc.