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Is the Rigol DS1054Z still the best buy for a cheap entry level oscilloscope?

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JS:
Auto is ok when trying to capture a steady square-wave, not so much for odd pulses like transmision line reflection or odd one offs events or one in a bunch of other stuff things. In that cases the auto function might (will) not know what do you want to see and what you don't

JS

IDEngineer:

--- Quote from: BravoV on May 31, 2018, 12:23:02 am ---
--- Quote from: bd139 on May 31, 2018, 12:00:18 am ---Auto is no different to an auto ranging DMM IMHO. Use it all the time. Easier than pissing around in the layered controls.
Interestingly Philips did analogue scopes with auto.

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Same as the venerable Tek CROs.

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Yes, and I use a calculator these days to do math too. But I understand the concepts behind what the calculator is doing. Pressing the equal button on a calculator, or the Auto button on a scope, doesn't teach you anything. The example from JS about "not so much for odd pulses like transmision line reflection or odd one offs events or one in a bunch of other stuff" is a perfect example of what we're talking about.

I like to actually understand my R&D equipment. But hey, maybe that's just me. Maybe Auto is good enough for design work these days, and I'm just an old fuddy-dud. (Speaking of equal buttons, my calculators don't have them because I use nothing but HP RPN. Two strikes against this old fuddy-dud?  :))

Dubbie:
Not sure I have ever used the Auto button on my scope.

tautech:

--- Quote from: Dubbie on May 31, 2018, 05:15:38 am ---Not sure I have ever used the Auto button on my scope.

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Yep, the only time I ever use it is with a new model that I've not seen before....like, I wonder how good this works ?

Blindly connecting a scope and pressing AutoSet is demonstrating plainly you have no idea of the signal you expect to see or have no idea how to operate a scope !

IDEngineer:

--- Quote from: Dubbie on May 31, 2018, 05:15:38 am ---Not sure I have ever used the Auto button on my scope.
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I don't think I've ever intentionally used an Auto button. And I hate it when I do accidentially hit the Auto button, because I then have to go back and set everything to what I actually needed.  :rant:  There's no "undo" button. And Auto's idea of what I want to see is almost always wrong.

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