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| ebclr:
" Are there fake Siglent and Rigol" For sure not, is Rigol and Siglent the ones who backed those online suppliers, They can't refuse orders, this is not acceptable in China. China way of thinking is more free, they really don't care about this artificially created protection for certain groups even on the front they claim to support, but on the back, they sell to anybody who has a nice order. Same applies to theyr supplyer, China is a communist country with the strongest jungle capitalism. |
| james_s:
--- Quote from: rstofer on May 01, 2017, 09:27:46 pm ---The manufacturers didn't want a 'gray market' in their products. This is actually pretty common and a huge problem in the SCUBA industry where regulators are available in foreign countries (relative to US) for considerably less money. The customers in the US are getting ripped and will often order from foreign sources but the manufacturer claims you won't get a warranty and your local retailer may no perform the usual maintenance. Sometimes retailers order from these sources in bulk and sell the products for less than MSRP. Not the kind of thing the manufacturer wants to see as they try to protect their authorized resellers. --- End quote --- But how is a used item gray market? I've never heard of anyone being challenged about selling used equipment. |
| TNorthover:
--- Quote from: tautech on May 01, 2017, 08:17:59 pm ---You must be aware Rigol tried this on too, or have you conveniently forgotten ? https://www.eevblog.com/forum/beginners/ds1052e-removed-from-ebay/ --- End quote --- So your defence of this practice is "they do it too"? Surely you see that's inadequate for anyone trying to represent Siglent's interests? |
| EEVblog:
--- Quote from: radcom123 on April 30, 2017, 08:01:40 pm ---Before I buy one I would like to know a few things: 1. My budget really can't stretch much more than £350ish inc vat+p&p (~$450) so is the DS1054Z still the best value (as of April 2017) assuming it can still be unlocked to 100Mhz with the protocol decoders? Or is there something better for a similar price with similar features i.e 4 channels, decoders, etc ? --- End quote --- For 4 channel, no, nothing else can touch the DS1054Z. For 2 channels, or absolutel minimum cost outlay, there are arguably better choices. A lot of people have asked for a Keysight/Rigol/Siglent/GWinstek shootout, but it's just not fair to compare 2CH and 4CH scopes. |
| tautech:
--- Quote from: TNorthover on May 02, 2017, 04:00:24 am --- --- Quote from: tautech on May 01, 2017, 08:17:59 pm ---You must be aware Rigol tried this on too, or have you conveniently forgotten ? https://www.eevblog.com/forum/beginners/ds1052e-removed-from-ebay/ --- End quote --- So your defence of this practice is "they do it too"? Surely you see that's inadequate for anyone trying to represent Siglent's interests? --- End quote --- There are members here that just can't let things be and periodically throw muck. The are often fanbois of competing brands to Siglent (in this case) and need be reminded that their favourite brand is not as squeaky clean and virginal as they might think. :P If you want/need to research this issue further I'd advise you to watch one of Dave's vids where he interviews the CEO of Siglent and asks him about this matter. His reply reflects/confirms the private internal communications at that time that I was party to. https://www.eevblog.com/2015/12/03/eevblog-826-siglent-ceo-eric-qin-visits-the-eevblog-lab/ |
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