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Is the Rigol DS1054Z still the best entry level digital scope for the price?
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tautech:

--- Quote from: blaze1024 on January 16, 2018, 05:02:29 pm ---On a separate note. I have both the Rigol 1054z and the Siglent 1202x-e in my cart over at Amazon. Been trying to figure out which one I am going to buy. I like the 200Mhz and the increased color depth of the Siglent but I really do like the 4 channels and logic decoding of the Rigol not to mention what seems like more polished software.

It's a tough choice. I'm kinda waiting around to see if I can get that discount coupon for EEVBlog members. I think that might be enough to push me over the edge for the Rigol. It will give me enough bargaining power to keep me out of the dog house when the CFO  (MY wife)  :rant:  :blah: :rant:  finds out that I bought more test gear.       

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Have a good look at the new 4ch X-E first.
https://www.eevblog.com/forum/testgear/siglent-sds1204x-e-released-for-domestic-markets-in-china/

There's a discount thread to get Siglent equipment from Saelig, ask for the code there.
blaze1024:

--- Quote from: tautech on January 16, 2018, 06:42:20 pm ---
--- Quote from: blaze1024 on January 16, 2018, 05:02:29 pm ---On a separate note. I have both the Rigol 1054z and the Siglent 1202x-e in my cart over at Amazon. Been trying to figure out which one I am going to buy. I like the 200Mhz and the increased color depth of the Siglent but I really do like the 4 channels and logic decoding of the Rigol not to mention what seems like more polished software.

It's a tough choice. I'm kinda waiting around to see if I can get that discount coupon for EEVBlog members. I think that might be enough to push me over the edge for the Rigol. It will give me enough bargaining power to keep me out of the dog house when the CFO  (MY wife)  :rant:  :blah: :rant:  finds out that I bought more test gear.       

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Have a good look at the new 4ch X-E first.
https://www.eevblog.com/forum/testgear/siglent-sds1204x-e-released-for-domestic-markets-in-china/

There's a discount thread to get Siglent equipment from Saelig, ask for the code there.

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Nice looking scope but it's out of my budget at nearly twice the price
tautech:

--- Quote from: blaze1024 on January 17, 2018, 01:35:51 am ---
--- Quote from: tautech on January 16, 2018, 06:42:20 pm ---
--- Quote from: blaze1024 on January 16, 2018, 05:02:29 pm ---On a separate note. I have both the Rigol 1054z and the Siglent 1202x-e in my cart over at Amazon. Been trying to figure out which one I am going to buy. I like the 200Mhz and the increased color depth of the Siglent but I really do like the 4 channels and logic decoding of the Rigol not to mention what seems like more polished software.

It's a tough choice. I'm kinda waiting around to see if I can get that discount coupon for EEVBlog members. I think that might be enough to push me over the edge for the Rigol. It will give me enough bargaining power to keep me out of the dog house when the CFO  (MY wife)  :rant:  :blah: :rant:  finds out that I bought more test gear.       

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Have a good look at the new 4ch X-E first.
https://www.eevblog.com/forum/testgear/siglent-sds1204x-e-released-for-domestic-markets-in-china/

There's a discount thread to get Siglent equipment from Saelig, ask for the code there.

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Nice looking scope but it's out of my budget at nearly twice the price

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The SDS1104X-E 100 MHz version isn't twice the price though.
Check the specs to see what you get for the money.  ;)
Sudochop:

--- Quote from: blaze1024 on January 16, 2018, 05:02:29 pm ---On a separate note. I have both the Rigol 1054z and the Siglent 1202x-e in my cart over at Amazon. Been trying to figure out which one I am going to buy. I like the 200Mhz and the increased color depth of the Siglent but I really do like the 4 channels and logic decoding of the Rigol not to mention what seems like more polished software.

It's a tough choice. I'm kinda waiting around to see if I can get that discount coupon for EEVBlog members. I think that might be enough to push me over the edge for the Rigol. It will give me enough bargaining power to keep me out of the dog house when the CFO  (MY wife)  :rant:  :blah: :rant:  finds out that I bought more test gear.       

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I'm in the EXACT same situation. I've had both in my cart for over a week and I'm completely torn! Have you come to a decision yet?
rhb:
A lot have people have bought the Rigol and hacked the license key.  However, there is very little evidence that the "hacked" scope actually has the BW.

I bought an NOS (new, old stock) Instek GDS-2072E from Amazon for $222 + tax when  they were dumping old inventory which is around 150 MHz out of the box, no "hack", even though factory spec is 70 MHz.  I am very skeptical that a "hacked" 50 MHz Rigol actually has 100 MHz BW.  The only way to be sure is to feed it a fast rise time pulse such as Leo Bodnar's 40 pS pulse generator.  My 200 MHz MSO-2204EA comes in at 204 MHz with a better step response.

Yes, R&S, Keysight & Tektronix sell software crippled scopes to compete with Chinese prices.  But that does not imply that Chinese low end kit meets the high end specs in the same product line.  At  the bottom price tier, test and label to spec makes a lot of sense.  High sped scope front ends are *very* fiddly.

Also , no lab  will calibrate a hacked DS1054Z as a DS1104Z.  So unless you invest in your own cal gear, you have no idea what you have.
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