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I've caught the disease! I'm a single-payer (bench equipment)
vinito:
--- Quote from: coppercone2 on November 22, 2018, 01:28:38 pm ---holy shit put some epoxy on that lab floor. also, where is your moisture barrier?
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I don't know if you were talking to me or rhb, but that does bring up a question for me.
I have the styrofoam put into my wall there to buffer the cool draftiness of the wall for more comfort. I was thinking about putting some kind of thin laminate flooring over some thin-ish insulating underlayment to maybe help with the same thing for under foot. It won't be the whole basement, just a ways around the bench since there will be a lot of sitting in one place going on there. Big enough so a rolling chair will easily stay atop it, etc. I suppose I could possibly add some active heating as well, but probably not as I don't want too much of a step up to the bench area as well as the inefficiency of electric heat, especially with a concrete slab trying to suck it away. Not sure what I wanna do there yet, but whatever I do can be added pretty easily later too.
Pretty solid power feeds there rhb. I'll be spreading some outlets around a bit but only over 2 circuits, but that should suit me plenty fine. I like your ideas though and may adapt a bit of that for myself eventually.
rhb:
Coppercone's point about moisture barrier is important. At a minimum, paint the entire floor and any exposed concrete or masonry walls with the cheapest latex paint you can buy. The laminate requires a moisture barrier between it and a concrete floor. It's a good argument for doing the entire floor if you can afford it. Consider it the first step in remodeling the basement. Build an interior wall for your work space, insulate it and put down laminate.
High humidity leads to corrosion around solder joints and lots of other *interesting* misery. You really don't want to learn first hand as I have. One of the main reasons I have a tiny work area in my house rather than a large work area in my shop is humidity.
The photo is a tool holder I made of 18 gauge (0.040") aluminum sheet and mounted on a $13 articulated monitor mount. It's tucked back in the RH corner along with the soldering gear on a sliding platform. It's very easy to make. I'll eventually get around to posting about how to do it. It took me a couple of iterations to sort out. Having a tool holder designed for *your* tools is far superior to trying to use a "one size fits all".
glue_ru:
+1 on the knee braces, one day you'll wish you had added them, at least 3, one on each end and one centered would provide 10x support and stability.
After decades of building experience, that design will last, but never with a 100's or a 1000 pounds on it, it will eventually leverage/split the wall studs apart.
rhb:
My thought was short 6-8" braces on each stud. I *have* seen a number of metal clips fail.
Side fastened to the horizontal member and in compression against the stud, there will *never* be a problem unless you exceed the strength of a 2x4.
vinito:
--- Quote ---"it depends o n the area alot"
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Yeah I agree. Fortunately my basement is already dry. I've been here 19 years.
I did a little looking and it appears I can get some laminate flooring atop some insulating underlayment and add an electric heater (draws roughly 350W) layer under it for pretty frugal money. I think I'd be relatively happy with just a bit of insulation, but an actual warm floor would probably be pretty sweet.
As for the bench, a single support sags around 1/16" when I put all my fat on the outside end. There are 9 of them, plus a plywood top. I figure it will maybe see maximum 50lbs or so on it total... ever. It's an extravagant desk folks. I hammer and slam on the benches in the shop. This one is for electronics, computer and other hobby things.
"My thought was short 6-8" braces on each stud."
That is pretty much what I did. Glued & screwed, so it's pretty much all one board now really. Screws mostly just clamp until the glue sets up. Wood glue has impressive strength. Not sure if you noticed so I'll zoom in.
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