Job posting - This is why students need to get shocked - It's required for a job

[DougSpindler]

We have already reached that point and are well beyond.

Have you seen the signs in our school for millennials?
“No kid gets left behind”
“You are great”
“You can do anything”
“If you can think it, you can do it”
“Any answer is a good answer”
“Don’t pay any attention to the laws of physics, they don’t apply to you.”  Okay I made this one up.
“You can do math, just use Professor Harold Hill’s THINK system.”
“You can learn to speak a foreign lauguage and sound like a native i a week.”

[paulca]

You forgot:

Breed, consume, obey, stay asleep.

[ez24]

Destroy the credibility by desensitisation.

Already done

[BillB]

The nanny-state nuttery has moved well beyond the shores of California...

[nrxnrx]

“Any answer is a good answer”

I'll need some photos before I believe you.

[SL4P]

Can I take the job?
In the US’ litigious society, i’d be sure fire to get a very comfortable settlement when I ‘accidentally’ licked a 9V PP3 battery.

Just to top,it off,iI might spill some Drano in the bathroom.

Shock, fumes in the workplace.
Sue for possible future consequences.

[Brumby]

The nanny-state nuttery has moved well beyond the shores of California...

Seems they are not genuine signs:  "The signs relating to joggers wearing helmets are not Council signs and are fake. We believe they were put up on Wednesday evening, and our rangers had taken them down by early Thursday morning," a Council spokesperson said.

You only have to look at the signs to be suspicious.  They don't appear to be made of metal (metal is what you would expect), they don't have rounded corners and they are fixed to the pole by cable ties.

I suspect it could be the reaction of a nanny state warrior in response to the sign above it...

[DougSpindler]

Don’t Aussies drink a lot of beer?  Maybe like with drinking and driving can result in increased auto accidents.  Maybe Aussies die in accidents when drinking and jogging?

[KD4PBS]

You teach?
Interesting.

[ebastler]

You post?
Interesting.

(Who are you talking to? You might try the "quote" function.)

[DougSpindler]

You teach?
Interesting.

I think our ham buddy here is asking me, the OP.

Yes I teach.  Have been an adjunct college professor for close to 20 years.  I've taught thousands of studnets and won many awards.  Not that that means anything.  I think the real proof on my success as an professor is my students are very well trained, (they know there shit), and get jobs.  Or if they are failing/flunking out they thank me for being an excellet teachiner becuase I made them realize this is not what they want to do in life. 

Hope that answers your question.

[Mechatrommer]

...Not that that means anything...

duh... meaning the previous statement is nonsense. esp when one cant differentiate between two very clear meaning words.

...and get jobs.

how, by giving electric shocks?

this thread should reach its end of life... or moved to general chat section...

[KD4PBS]

You teach?
Interesting.

I think our ham buddy here is asking me, the OP.

Yes I teach.  Have been an adjunct college professor for close to 20 years.  I've taught thousands of studnets and won many awards.  Not that that means anything.  I think the real proof on my success as an professor is my students are very well trained, (they know there shit), and get jobs.  Or if they are failing/flunking out they thank me for being an excellet teachiner becuase I made them realize this is not what they want to do in life. 

Hope that answers your question.

Well, I had assumed that US high school industrial arts / electronics elective teachers nowadays would have a little better attention to detail is all; like they did 30-some years ago when I was there.  Considering all the typos and lack of understanding the difference between "may be exposed to" and "will be constantly exposed to" is what made me wonder, but then you write that you are a college adjunct professor.  This makes it very clear.  Thanks!
And congratulations on your stud nets.

[Cerebus]

...Not that that means anything...

duh... meaning the previous statement is nonsense. esp when one cant differentiate between two very clear meaning words.

It is a common English idiom. Essentially the OP means that the "I've taught thousands of studnets and won many awards" is mere circumstantial evidence, not to be taken on its own without other substantive evidence to support it. It's both an indirect form of modesty ("I have lots of awards, but you shouldn't put too much store in that") and an acknowledgement that there are many people who have taught thousands of students but are still bad teachers and that an award doesn't necessarily mean that the person who has it is deserving of it (e.g. Henry Kissinger getting the Nobel Peace Prize).

[DougSpindler]

You teach?
Interesting.

I think our ham buddy here is asking me, the OP.

Yes I teach.  Have been an adjunct college professor for close to 20 years.  I've taught thousands of studnets and won many awards.  Not that that means anything.  I think the real proof on my success as an professor is my students are very well trained, (they know there shit), and get jobs.  Or if they are failing/flunking out they thank me for being an excellet teachiner becuase I made them realize this is not what they want to do in life. 

Hope that answers your question.

Well, I had assumed that US high school industrial arts / electronics elective teachers nowadays would have a little better attention to detail is all; like they did 30-some years ago when I was there.  Considering all the typos and lack of understanding the difference between "may be exposed to" and "will be constantly exposed to" is what made me wonder, but then you write that you are a college adjunct professor.  This makes it very clear.  Thanks!
And congratulations on your stud nets.

Never said I was a high school or industrial arts / electronics elective teachers.   But I udnerstnad the confusion.  I am a college profesor who is teaching a college class to a gifted group of high school students at the high school.  It is not a high school class, it's a college class being taught at the high school.

But in America we can't call anyone in high school anymore gifted or teach classes for gifted studnets.  So to be politiclaay correct the colleges are contracted to teach college classes to the gifted highschool students through a dual enrollment program. 

Make sense now?

Let me tell you these kids are smart.  Very smart.  I have one thriteen year old who is incredibly smart.  Lucky for me I know things he hasn't learned yet.



As for America's education system it is badly broken.  I was just on a professor improvemetn confence call this morning telling us we nned to be more effective in our teaching by using more vidoes, vitural teaching aids and automated online quizes.  Stupidest thing ever.  I get students who have been taught in virual enviroments how to use a screw drive and vituraly solder wires together.

Let me ask you...  Would you hire a guy who doen't know how to use a screw driver and learned how to solder and use a VOM meter virutaly?

Crud cheap VOMs are $10 on eBay.  Instead we pay $250 per student so they can learn virtually.

Sorry for the rant, but these kids are going crazy in our schools.  We are taking all of the fun in learning.  I remember in my high school we had auto, metal, wood, and electronics shops.  Over a decande ago they ripped all of that equipment out and turned the shops into classrooms.

The joy we had in high school metal shop of making something we could be proud of.  All that is gone.  Kids today have to be proud of making things in a virtual environemnt.

My worst nightmare is getting into an auto accident and waking up in a hospital only to find the person treating me was someone I flunked.


 










 



 

[DougSpindler]

...Not that that means anything...

duh... meaning the previous statement is nonsense. esp when one cant differentiate between two very clear meaning words.

It is a common English idiom. Essentially the OP means that the "I've taught thousands of studnets and won many awards" is mere circumstantial evidence, not to be taken on its own without other substantive evidence to support it. It's both an indirect form of modesty ("I have lots of awards, but you shouldn't put too much store in that") and an acknowledgement that there are many people who have taught thousands of students but are still bad teachers and that an award doesn't necessarily mean that the person who has it is deserving of it (e.g. Henry Kissinger getting the Nobel Peace Prize).

Not sure about where you are but here in America a teacher can win an award for having a pulse.  And if we do we receive a bonus.  In American schools we reward mediocrity.  We graduate students from kinedergarten to the first grade.  We make sure no child gets left behind which ensures no kid gets ahead either.

We downplay kids who come in frist, becasue that wouldn't be nice and reward students who come in last as winners.  These kids are Number 1 for being last.

Not sure if you are bashing me or not for my way and style of teaching.  But isn't the test of a good instructor is if you can teach students enough knowledge to get a job that allows them to use their brain and not flip burgers all day?  My students get hired and promoted.

[Cerebus]

...Not that that means anything...

duh... meaning the previous statement is nonsense. esp when one cant differentiate between two very clear meaning words.

It is a common English idiom. Essentially the OP means that the "I've taught thousands of studnets and won many awards" is mere circumstantial evidence, not to be taken on its own without other substantive evidence to support it. It's both an indirect form of modesty ("I have lots of awards, but you shouldn't put too much store in that") and an acknowledgement that there are many people who have taught thousands of students but are still bad teachers and that an award doesn't necessarily mean that the person who has it is deserving of it (e.g. Henry Kissinger getting the Nobel Peace Prize).

Not sure about where you are

The Union Flag kind of gives it away - "Her Britannic Majesty's Kingdom of Great Britain and North Ireland".

Not sure if you are bashing me or not for my way and style of teaching.  But isn't the test of a good instructor is if you can teach students enough knowledge to get a job that allows them to use their brain and not flip burgers all day?  My students get hired and promoted.

Why would you think that? I don't know a thing about you or your style of teaching (save that I hope that it's better than your spelling or grammar; but I suspect that this isn't the first time that you've heard that).

I was just trying to help Mechatrommer out with a complex English idiom that you used casually and he was obviously having trouble understanding as he thought you had contradicted yourself when, clearly to a native English speaker, you hadn't contradicted yourself.