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| Jasonbit:
Hello Folks, I am upset with all microcontrollers. Because I every time I need a crystal I never have the right crystal :box: |O Therefore I ask help you to find kit in any online store where offer a large suggest the most number possible of values crystal. Or if you can give me a list of values do you thinking, with your experience, I will need in future, I will appreciate. Thanks [UPDATE1] I find many package where I can find a various values of crystal, like this: https://www.ebay.com/itm/15PCS-Values-Crystal-Oscillator-Assortment-4-48MHZ-Kit-Set-DIP-DIY-New/311647168836?hash=item488f9e6944%3Ag%3A8Z0AAOSwnHZYcGhl&_fsrp=1&_sacat=7286&_nkw=kit+values+crystal&_from=R40&rt=nc&_trksid=m570.l1313&LH_TitleDesc=0%7C0, but always I am in doubt if this are the right values for me. I am a newbie in world microcontrollers. I am use a family PIC16 and ATMEGA. |
| bson:
You need to know the load capacitance of a crystal. I see nothing in that listing and I suspect that information won't be included. Just order an assortment of e.g. Abracon crystals from a reputable distributor. Basic jellybean crystals are not expensive. |
| james_s:
How many different crystals do you need? I find that 2 or 3 different values cover 99% of my needs. |
| Jasonbit:
--- Quote from: bson on August 10, 2018, 04:23:57 am ---You need to know the load capacitance of a crystal. I see nothing in that listing and I suspect that information won't be included. Just order an assortment of e.g. Abracon crystals from a reputable distributor. Basic jellybean crystals are not expensive. --- End quote --- What reputable distributor do you know? This distributor available samples, like microchip for example? I am a newbie on electronics, do you refer this, https://www.foxonline.com/pdfs/xtaldesignnotes.pdf , when talk about load capacitance of a crystal? --- Quote ---Load Capacitance This refers to capacitance external to the crystal, contained within the feedback loop of the oscillator circuit. If the application requires a "parallel" resonant crystal, the value of load capacitance must be specified. If the application requires a "series" resonant crystal, load capacitance is not a factor and need not be specified. Load capacitance is the amount of capacitance measured or computed across the crystal terminals on the PCB. --- End quote --- --- Quote from: james_s on August 10, 2018, 05:21:20 am ---How many different crystals do you need? I find that 2 or 3 different values cover 99% of my needs. --- End quote --- To right now I only need 4MHz and 16MHz, but to reduce breakages I prefer to gather a variety of values, to avoid problems in a future. Thanks |
| bson:
--- Quote from: Jasonbit on August 10, 2018, 02:50:57 pm ---I am a newbie on electronics, do you refer this, https://www.foxonline.com/pdfs/xtaldesignnotes.pdf , when talk about load capacitance of a crystal? --- End quote --- https://blog.adafruit.com/2012/01/24/choosing-the-right-crystal-and-caps-for-your-design/ I usually order from Mouser or DigiKey, but you're in the U.K. and I don't know what distributors exist in Europe... I can't really help other than strongly suggest not buying random parts without proper datasheets on eBay. For MCUs I like 12MHz since this is easily scaled to just about anything using an internal PLL (it factors to powers of the two smallest primes, 2 and 3 so can trivially PLL scale to any product of powers of 2 and 3), especially with simpler MCU PLLs that often limit nominator or denominator to a power of two. PLLs and DCOs can be tricky to set up on a chip I'm unfamiliar with, so I like to be able to punt on that and just run directly off the external crystal osc only to make progress, then revisit the DCO and PLL later. More specifically, when I have pin configuration, clock selections, and other internal features going, so I can route clocks to an external pin and measure them with a counter to verify it's all working as intended. |
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