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| ebastler:
--- Quote from: scatterandfocus on September 11, 2019, 05:53:22 pm ---UPDATE: I have created a list which you can find at around 40 posts into this thread. It is near the bottom of page 2 of this thread for me. To jump to it, search for the string: diy-or-die --- End quote --- Or you might add this newfangled thing called a "link" to your original post: ;) https://www.eevblog.com/forum/beginners/make-electronics-book-2nd-edition-components-list/msg2690322/#msg2690322 |
| scatterandfocus:
--- Quote from: ryanb9 on September 17, 2019, 05:39:08 pm --- --- Quote from: scatterandfocus on September 11, 2019, 05:53:22 pm ---UPDATE: I have created a list which you can find at around 40 posts into this thread. It is near the bottom of page 2 of this thread for me. To jump to it, search for the string: diy-or-die I'm wondering if anyone knows of a parts list/cart at any of the major U.S. suppliers (Mouser, Digikey, etc.) for the Make Electronics 2nd edition book. I have already made my own list from the book in plain text, but if there is already a cart at Mouser, for example, that could make things much easier, even if I decide to get some of the components from elsewhere. If not, I guess I will be making one to share. Also, is there a downside to metal film over carbon comp resistors? I see lots of inexpensive metal film assortments on ebay. I don't really see any assortments on Mouser. And I have read that it is best to buy transistors and ic's from a reputable supplier (because of counterfeiting), and to get passive components from elsewhere to save on cost. So I'm thinking of getting some passive assortments from ebay and filling in any missing values at Mouser along with the active components. --- End quote --- In the book he says that he has links to kits that correspond to his books you can buy. I would just do that if i were you. --- End quote --- To me, using kits seems like throwing out part of the hands-on experience of doing electronics. Sooner or later you will need to find parts, look up information about parts, ask lots of questions, find out how much various parts should cost, and so on. Also, I was able to get significantly more parts for the money by gathering them myself, including 2 each of all logic IC's, which I think the kits don't have. If one of those IC's dies, possibly just by handling it, kit buyers will have to put things on hold, find the part, pay for shipping + component cost, and wait some days for it to arrive. And some components are so inexpensive and commonly used that it just makes sense to get some extras. But a person buying a kit wouldn't know that. |
| scatterandfocus:
--- Quote from: ebastler on September 17, 2019, 05:55:49 pm ---Or you might add this newfangled thing called a "link" to your original post: ;) https://www.eevblog.com/forum/beginners/make-electronics-book-2nd-edition-components-list/msg2690322/#msg2690322 --- End quote --- Updated. |
| ADJohnson:
I worked through both these books and they are good for introduction to electronics, which is what they are aimed at. The author was very good at responding to queries as well. I also tried the ‘buy it myself’ approach, for many of the reasons others have stated, and stopped doing that, just buying the kits from TechTraderPro: the difference in the price is not a lot - maybe about £10, I can’t remember - but the time it was taking going through search results, different suppliers etc was doing my head in. Just not worth it. For book 2 I did go the separate parts route because, IIRC, there weren’t any kits. One thing to bear in my mind though is that some of the experiments require parts that are just not available anymore (except maybe on eBay at ridiculous cost) so you have to adapt the experiment to parts you can get. It’s also worth reading the experiments (scanning at least) to see if it is worth getting a part just for that one-off, use, that you are not likely to use again. I skipped the build of some and just read and understood them. Overall, I would recommend both the Make books for beginners. You do not need any fancy test equipment, just a multimeter and basic soldering iron. If you think you will carry on with the hobby, buy a decent multimeter and a temperature controlled iron to save money in the long run. Do not buy scopes, generators or any other test kit for these books. |
| scatterandfocus:
I wouldn't tell anyone not to buy kits if you want the easiest time of getting the necessary components, such as parents buying kits for their kids. But let's be realistic about what you get in those kits and prices of the kits. The Protechtrader kits require 3 kits to get all the necessary components. The kits come in 'standard' and 'deluxe' options. The kits are vague about what you actually get (quantities and no brands indicated for anything), and it seems that you get a minimum of the required components. In other words, it doesn't look like you are getting spools of wire (wouldn't fit in those boxes), multiple of same IC's, and so on. The standard kits 1, 2, and 3 are $80, $80, and $66 respectively for a total of $226. The deluxe kits are $98, $98, and $80 for a total of $276. In the deluxe kit 1 you get a super cheapo multi-meter. In deluxe kit 2 you get a super cheapo soldering pencil and a 9v adapter (no brands indicated). In deluxe kit 3 you get more wire and an upgraded magnet (no specifics). For $226, you could get double the components and a meter and iron that aren't embarrassingly bad from elsewhere. For $276 you could get the same but get a temperature controlled soldering station instead of an iron, or whatever you like with that extra $50. The kits from Chaney are a much better value. There are 3 kits at $50, $17, and $35 for a total of $102. But again here, you are getting a minimum of components and no brands indicated. You will have to buy other things such as a meter, soldering iron, batteries, but you can get items of a quality that you won't want to throw in the trash, for not much money. For example, $10 for a meter and $10 for a soldering pencil from ebay will make that stuff that comes in the Protechtrader kits look like tools that came out of a cereal box. :palm: And beside price, at least Chaney gives you itemized lists of what you are getting. But with ~$100 shopping around, you can get a significant amount of extra components or use some of the money to help in buying a decent meter, iron, and other required components. On these kits, I feel like Protechtrader is milking buyers, who are probably parents buying this stuff for their kids. Chaney seems reasonable for this sort of situation where parents won't know how, or want to do the leg work in buying components. But for someone who is able and willing to do the work of finding components, I don't know why anyone would recommend kits instead, especially since there is now a list of what is required. ;) |
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