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Mini TS100 soldering iron and current leakage
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MosherIV:

--- Quote ---I feel like the dunce in the corner for asking this. But if there's no earth connection for the iron... or if there is an earth connection but it isn't plugged into the SMPS, then how does the 115V potential get to the tip of the iron?
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stj said :

--- Quote ---welcome to the world of switching psu's with a capacitor coupling the secondary to the input earth - that often does not exist but is then capacitivly coupled to the input terminals!!
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KL27x:
Ok, I feel like an even bigger idiot for asking, then. Cuz I still don't get it.

If I take the "tingly" TS100 and I put a layer of micarta or ceramic or kapton tape over it, then put another sheet of metal over that... I can still measure 115 V between that and earth?


--- Quote ---capacitivly coupled to the input terminals
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Why would the input terminals be in continuity with the tip of the iron?
3db:
This iron actually has an earthing screw on top above the power connector.

3DB.




MosherIV:

--- Quote ---If I take the "tingly" TS100 and I put a layer of micarta or ceramic or kapton tape over it, then put another sheet of metal over that.
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You have just created another capacitor.

If you put AC on one side/plate of the capacitor, the other plate will become charged.
KL27x:
^But inductive AC ripple wouldn't create 115VDC potential to earth, would it? Wouldn't it be just.. plus and minus xV from earth (or whatever you were measuring it against?) The capacitor would block DC.


--- Quote ---This iron actually has an earthing screw on top above the power connector.
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This makes sense to me (but maybe I'm an idiot). So perhaps the earthing screw is connected to a wire in the cable? Or to a shield in the cable which eventually runs to the sheath of the T12 style tip? In this case, you could snip the connection and install a switch to select grounded vs floating tip?

Also, since it runs off DC, perhaps the designers assume that the DC ground will be grounded to earth IF/WHEN the unit is run off an actual grounded smps? So perhaps even in the hand piece itself, the 3 connections of the tip, 2 of them are shorted together? So it might even require modification to the iron internals, itself, to liberate the sheath from any connection?

Or if the fit of the tip in the handpiece is loose enough, you could maybe wrap the base of the sheath/tip in kapton tape, so only the 2 heater/thermocouple connections are exposed? Jam that back into the handpiece, and shazam, you have an isolated tip? :)

I don't have T12 iron, but I would assume if you equate it with a TRS stereo plug, the base ring is the tip/earth and the middle and tip rings are to the heater/thermocouple unit.
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