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paulca:

--- Quote from: mikerj on May 10, 2018, 12:21:04 pm ---
--- Quote from: sstepane on May 09, 2018, 08:11:22 pm ---It's the same as to ride a 4-wheeled combustible filled tank which is ignited by a spark.

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It's quite literally not the same.

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Correct.  A better analogue would be standing in a nearly contained box while running hot water over yourself and inhaling the vapour.  Aka, taking a shower.

Some people just don't understand the simple difference between smoke and vapor.

Smoke is the result of combusting material, usually carbon which generates many thousands of chemicals, a lot of which are carcogenic.

Vapor is the gaseous form of a liquid or more accurately the droplets floating in air form , such as steam.

If you cool and condense smoke you get tar, a sticky concoction of horrid chemicals.

if you cool and condense vapor you get the original liquid you started with minus an volatiles which didn't recondense.

The similarities are... "It produces a whitish cloud" and nothing more.
sstepane:
I have a feeling you got me wrong. I was opposing to someone that said it is stupid to hold shorted battery close to your face, which is a vape device...
paulca:

--- Quote from: sstepane on May 10, 2018, 12:50:50 pm ---Ok.  I can rephrase - potentially dangerous device equipped with safety measures for everyday use. How close it is to any other device out there is a matter of taste really.

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On battery safety there are any number of battery power devices which consume quite a lot power from lithium that could go bang if used incorrectly.  Electric cars are a large scale example.

However I do wish "sub ohm" vapours would catch themselves on mostly because they are inconsiderate tw@s who seem determined to get vaping banned for the rest of us while blowing overly/stupidly large clouds of vapor over everyone in the street thinking it's cool.

They are also the ones getting a hard on for more and more watts and happily holding an 18650 undergoing a 100W load an inch from their face.... They spend £40 on a single 18650 which has a high current rating, then buy 4 of them so they can power their idiotic sub ohm coil..

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sstepane:

--- Quote from: paulca on May 10, 2018, 01:00:59 pm ---On battery safety there are any number of battery power devices which consume quite a lot power from lithium that could go bang if used incorrectly.  Electric cars are a large scale example.

However I do wish "sub ohm" vapours would catch themselves on mostly because they are inconsiderate tw@s who seem determined to get vaping banned for the rest of us while blowing overly/stupidly large clouds of vapor over everyone in the street thinking it's cool.

They are also the ones getting a hard on for more and more watts and happily holding an 18650 undergoing a 100W load an inch from their face.... They spend £40 on a single 18650 which has a high current rating, then buy 4 of them so they can power their idiotic sub ohm coil..

</rant>

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Being a bit more specific would omit many questions  ;)
I vape for like 4-5 years and believe it is much more safer than a regular cig, but there is always that stupid kid that did never listen in school..
paulca:

--- Quote from: sstepane on May 10, 2018, 01:04:58 pm ---
--- Quote from: paulca on May 10, 2018, 01:00:59 pm ---On battery safety there are any number of battery power devices which consume quite a lot power from lithium that could go bang if used incorrectly.  Electric cars are a large scale example.

However I do wish "sub ohm" vapours would catch themselves on mostly because they are inconsiderate tw@s who seem determined to get vaping banned for the rest of us while blowing overly/stupidly large clouds of vapor over everyone in the street thinking it's cool.

They are also the ones getting a hard on for more and more watts and happily holding an 18650 undergoing a 100W load an inch from their face.... They spend £40 on a single 18650 which has a high current rating, then buy 4 of them so they can power their idiotic sub ohm coil..

</rant>

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Being a bit more specific would omit many questions  ;)
I vape for like 4-5 years and believe it is much more safer than a regular cig, but there is always that stupid kid that did never listen in school..

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So I vape.  I use multi-ohm coils at 8-10W.  Sub-ohm'ers use coils which will not fire properly under 20-30W.  Their justification is it produces more vapor and thus more flavour.  I vape with a nicotine concentration of around 18mg/ml, so about 0.018% nicotine.  A sub-ohm'er would probably turn purple and splutter at those levels, so they run at 0.004% nicotine and generate about 10 times more vapour.... which they produce in clouds which then pisses people off, get vapers a bad name and ultimately will get it banned in public and/or all other places!

The stupid kid at school should have been allowed to play in the traffic as a child and they wouldn't be a problem any more.  I am absolutely tired of protecting and pampering to idiots and having the rest of the sensible world banned from doing things that stupid people might hurt themselves with.
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