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Offline Jbates58Topic starter

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auto low coolant alarm sensors and electrolysis
« on: December 28, 2016, 11:53:52 pm »
hi all.

i am wanting to install a coolant level sensor like the Redarc or engine saver unit in my new motor as a safe guard.

from what i can tell, there are a few different ones out there like the redarc and the engine saver units

the redarc uses AC power and the engine save uses DC. and most of the other units i have found are also using AC. i am after some info as to whats better, and what wont cause any un-needed damage to the rest of the cooling system and my motor.

i have read that the DC will work better as it should erode the anode away (makes sence.) however, i cant find any info on in the sensor is the sacrificial anode.

and i have read that using AC will make hydrogen and another explosive gas, so i dont realy want to make my radiator and motor into a bomb per-se (even though there is a pressure cap that should vent it. but still.


any input?

Jason
 

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Re: auto low coolant alarm sensors and electrolysis
« Reply #1 on: December 29, 2016, 04:45:18 pm »
Is this for the radiator cooling of an engine? Is this to go in the coolant reservoir?
"i have read that the DC will work better as it should erode the anode away (makes sence.) however, i cant find any info on in the sensor is the sacrificial anode."
That doesn't make sense unless maybe one electrode is a metal tank and the other electrode is in the liquid to be erroded.
The AC-drive ones alternate the charge on the electrodes so there is no net erosion. Can you post a link to the DC one?

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Offline Brutte

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Re: auto low coolant alarm sensors and electrolysis
« Reply #2 on: December 29, 2016, 04:59:47 pm »
i am wanting to install a coolant level sensor (...) as a safe guard.
Could you give some reference? Why would someone install an auxiliary coolant level sensor, be it AC or DC? Is it for some kind of rodent control? Mind most of us live in cities so we do not have many interactions with wilderness. I have heard some animals eat HV cables but never heard there are beasts that drink a glycol based solution and an extra coolant level control is needed..
 

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Re: auto low coolant alarm sensors and electrolysis
« Reply #3 on: December 29, 2016, 09:51:33 pm »
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Why would someone install an auxiliary coolant level sensor, be it AC or DC?

This is unclear, as the redarc.com.au site replies with "not found"

It seems to be an Australian thing, advertised by a "Coolant Dundee" named Ian Callinan.

The functionality evades me, but perhaps the OP can provide more details.



 

Offline Jbates58Topic starter

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Re: auto low coolant alarm sensors and electrolysis
« Reply #4 on: December 29, 2016, 11:58:29 pm »
hi all

yes, this is for a vehicle radiator.

the sensor basically (well to my understanding,) passes a small current and voltage through the coolant in the system, and if the sensor looses conductivity, then it sets off an alarm.



Engine saver (Uses DCpower) (this is the main site, there are links down the bottom, but there is some info on the front page about the product) - http://www.enginesaver.com.au/

redarc (Uses AC Power)- https://www.redarc.com.au/low-coolant-alarm



there are a couple of others, but these seems to be the most recommended units.

i am just wanting to protect my new motor from damage if i lose coolant, as it cost a fortune to build it.

Jason
 

Offline SeanB

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Re: auto low coolant alarm sensors and electrolysis
« Reply #5 on: December 30, 2016, 08:14:08 pm »
What vehicle is this, you might already have a water low sensor in it, though some are notoriously poor at telling you the engine is about to go nuclear.
 

Offline Jbates58Topic starter

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Re: auto low coolant alarm sensors and electrolysis
« Reply #6 on: December 30, 2016, 10:13:44 pm »
What vehicle is this, you might already have a water low sensor in it, though some are notoriously poor at telling you the engine is about to go nuclear.

no, it dosent. i know this, so im wanting to add one.

but its a nissan patrol, 2006 ZD30. that i have done an engine conversion to and re-wired most of the electrics.

Jason
 

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Re: auto low coolant alarm sensors and electrolysis
« Reply #7 on: December 30, 2016, 11:08:27 pm »
i am wanting to install a coolant level sensor (...) as a safe guard.
Could you give some reference? Why would someone install an auxiliary coolant level sensor, be it AC or DC? Is it for some kind of rodent control? Mind most of us live in cities so we do not have many interactions with wilderness. I have heard some animals eat HV cables but never heard there are beasts that drink a glycol based solution and an extra coolant level control is needed..

too much would kill them, but it is supposed to to have a nice sweet taste
 

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Re: auto low coolant alarm sensors and electrolysis
« Reply #8 on: January 01, 2017, 02:16:51 pm »
VW and Audi use a two electrode sensor in the expansion tank bottle and have done for years. I'm not sure if they use AC or DC but I suspect DC. I would be inclined to try to copy their design to avoid having to re-invent the wheel. Maybe you can even use their sensor also.
 


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