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Oscilloscope comes with no ground power cable?
wraper:
--- Quote from: janoc on May 30, 2019, 09:04:40 am ---Ever tried to push the pin through that metal or plastic? By a bare hand (not a hammer?).
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Have you read my original complain? :palm:
--- Quote ---Seriously, have you ever opened one of the outlets you are criticizing?
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I have the same question for you. I did.
--- Quote ---Also, I hope you do realize that there are many different models and different constructions.
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As I've opened them and have seen a construction, I see it as significant concern.
soldar:
--- Quote from: Berni on May 30, 2019, 06:03:17 am --- Tho if its a plug pissing contest i do have to admit that the UK plugs are probably the best design, They only thing against them are the bulkiness and how painful it must be to step on one.
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They can be used as a throwable weapon if you need to defend yourself from EU bureaucrats or other evil-doers! :)
Pluscrafter:
And what about swiss plugs?
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janoc:
--- Quote from: wraper on May 30, 2019, 11:13:39 am ---
--- Quote from: janoc on May 30, 2019, 09:04:40 am ---Ever tried to push the pin through that metal or plastic? By a bare hand (not a hammer?).
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Have you read my original complain? :palm:
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You mean this?
--- Quote from: wraper on May 29, 2019, 04:35:33 pm ---Superior my ass. Recently I was trying to put a plug into such socket. It wasn't going in (with proper orientation), so I pushed a bit harder. Guess what, earth pin was pushed inside the socket and shorted to line thus triggering circuit breaker.
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Because I can't find any other complaint.
--- Quote from: wraper on May 29, 2019, 04:35:33 pm ---
--- Quote ---Seriously, have you ever opened one of the outlets you are criticizing?
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I have the same question for you. I did.
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How many do I need to open to show you that you have got a poorly made product and are making sweeping assumptions from a sample of one?
--- Quote from: wraper on May 29, 2019, 04:35:33 pm ---
--- Quote ---Also, I hope you do realize that there are many different models and different constructions.
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As I've opened them and have seen a construction, I see it as significant concern.
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Really? Heck, there are outlets like these where the "guts" are actually held in a piece of ceramic and no plastic at all! But you have obviously seen them all. Your country doesn't even use these outlets normally (assuming you are residing in Latvia), so I wonder where are you getting them from. Buy a proper Siemens or Legrand outlet and then criticize.
wraper:
--- Quote from: janoc on May 30, 2019, 03:05:08 pm ---
--- Quote from: wraper on May 30, 2019, 11:13:39 am ---
--- Quote from: janoc on May 30, 2019, 09:04:40 am ---Ever tried to push the pin through that metal or plastic? By a bare hand (not a hammer?).
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Have you read my original complain? :palm:
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You mean this?
--- Quote from: wraper on May 29, 2019, 04:35:33 pm ---Superior my ass. Recently I was trying to put a plug into such socket. It wasn't going in (with proper orientation), so I pushed a bit harder. Guess what, earth pin was pushed inside the socket and shorted to line thus triggering circuit breaker.
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Because I can't find any other complaint.
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Yes, but according to you "a bit harder" = I used hammer. Supposedly you stood behind me and have watched how it happened.
--- Quote ---How many do I need to open to show you that you have got a poorly made product and are making sweeping assumptions from a sample of one?
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Broken was sample of one. But I've opened way more than one to see construction in general. With usual Schuko sockets something like this won't happen even if you use hammer.
--- Quote ---Really? Heck, there are outlets like these where the "guts" are actually held in a piece of ceramic and no plastic at all!
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If you read more carefully, I was talking mostly about extension cords. Though ceramic won't work well against hammer hit on the prong. BTW ceramic in sockets is rarity nowadays.
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