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Offline fabiodlTopic starter

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Pierce gate oscillator
« on: January 11, 2021, 02:39:49 pm »
For a pierce-gate crystal oscillator, are there logic families to avoid?
I am thinking of using a SN74LVC1G04DCKR, any possible pitfalls?
I do not care about the duty cycle, because I purposefully choose a double frequency oscillator and use a flip flop.
(the frequency is pretty unusual, and there are no clocks with such frequency)
 

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Re: Pierce gate oscillator
« Reply #1 on: January 11, 2021, 03:47:28 pm »
For this kind of use, you should choose unbuffered gates.

In this case: 74LVC1GU04.

Buffered vs. unbuffered is a bit like the difference between picking a guitar string with a hammer or with a plectrum.  :)

What frequency? If it's a 32768 Hz or similar "tuning fork" crystal, it needs a large series resistor, as maximum drive level is only 1 uW.

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Offline fabiodlTopic starter

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Re: Pierce gate oscillator
« Reply #2 on: January 12, 2021, 08:38:54 am »
Your example fits perfectly! :) Does it still hold true when a resistor (R16 in the attached schematic) is used?
The frequency is 21.47727MHz, I was thinking about using a 2k2 and 1M resistor,
but 5**2/2k2 is 11uW!

Should I increase R16?
 

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Re: Pierce gate oscillator
« Reply #3 on: January 12, 2021, 10:48:24 am »
No problem, your circuit should be OK. The 1 uW drive is only relevant for the low frequency crystals.

 
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Online Ian.M

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Re: Pierce gate oscillator
« Reply #4 on: January 12, 2021, 11:01:44 am »
In another topic, Zero999 suggested the 74LVC1GX04 for Pierce oscillators, as it has one unbuffered inverter for the actual oscillator, and a second buffered inverter to provide a squared up, buffered output to external loads.   I agree.  :-+
 
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Re: Pierce gate oscillator
« Reply #5 on: January 12, 2021, 11:41:53 am »
That's neat!
 

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Re: Pierce gate oscillator
« Reply #6 on: January 12, 2021, 02:18:31 pm »
In another topic, Zero999 suggested the 74LVC1GX04 for Pierce oscillators, as it has one unbuffered inverter for the actual oscillator, and a second buffered inverter to provide a squared up, buffered output to external loads.   I agree.  :-+
There's also the 74LVC1401, which has a shut down pin, a buffer, as well as the Schmitt trigger.
 
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Re: Pierce gate oscillator
« Reply #7 on: January 12, 2021, 06:04:12 pm »
In another topic, Zero999 suggested the 74LVC1GX04 for Pierce oscillators, as it has one unbuffered inverter for the actual oscillator, and a second buffered inverter to provide a squared up, buffered output to external loads.   I agree.  :-+

I'd forgotten that one. Really nice part.

 


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