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Offline radu42Topic starter

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Please help identifying those components
« on: February 24, 2024, 10:58:33 am »
It says 98R on the transistors, but I didn't find it and I don't know what this code represents. Maybe you can help me.


 
 

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Re: Please help identifying those components
« Reply #1 on: February 24, 2024, 11:12:12 am »
The logo is from Siemens & Halske, the predecessor to today's Siemens. And in that package, it's almost certainly an RF transistor.

A quick search for "siemens 98R RF transistor" turns up the Siemens BFT 98 transistor. Looking at the modern datasheet, it comes in case variants with and without a mounting stud. But the datasheet doesn't indicate "98R" marking, so either it's a different part after all, or they changed the markings at some point. The old databook page (available at https://www.web-bcs.com/transistor/tc/bf/BFT98.php in German and p. 766 of https://ia801909.us.archive.org/28/items/httpsarchive.orgdetailselectroarch2/S/SiemensTransistorsDataBook1980-81_text.pdf in English) doesn't mention the studless option, so it's also conceivable that these were originally custom made for a customer.


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« Last Edit: February 24, 2024, 12:07:56 pm by tooki »
 

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Re: Please help identifying those components
« Reply #2 on: February 24, 2024, 06:31:23 pm »
RF transistors not in anti-static packaging is a worry. Some types of RF transistor are extremely static sensitive and need full precautions in handling and packaging.  Some have beryllia insulation which can generate highly poisonous dust if damaged.
 
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Re: Please help identifying those components
« Reply #3 on: February 24, 2024, 06:37:00 pm »
why waste the server bandwidth telling us all what sould common knowledge to most folks on here?.
 

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Re: Please help identifying those components
« Reply #4 on: February 24, 2024, 06:42:26 pm »
why waste the server bandwidth telling us all what sould common knowledge to most folks on here?.
This is the beginner’s subforum. You cannot expect “common knowledge” here, especially not specialty knowledge like the use of toxic beryllia. Not to mention that when it comes to safety, “better safe than sorry”: it’s better to tell someone something they already know than to leave them exposed to a hazard they weren’t aware of (but you were).
 

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Re: Please help identifying those components
« Reply #5 on: February 25, 2024, 08:36:45 pm »
I haven't received them yet. I saw that something else is written on the box and I hope to clarify myself fully. I didn't want the seller to "freak out" and increase the price, so I didn't ask for additional information.
 

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Re: Please help identifying those components
« Reply #6 on: February 25, 2024, 09:49:07 pm »
The logo is from Siemens & Halske, the predecessor to today's Siemens. And in that package, it's almost certainly an RF transistor.

A quick search for "siemens 98R RF transistor" turns up the Siemens BFT 98 transistor. Looking at the modern datasheet, it comes in case variants with and without a mounting stud. But the datasheet doesn't indicate "98R" marking, so either it's a different part after all, or they changed the markings at some point. The old databook page (available at https://www.web-bcs.com/transistor/tc/bf/BFT98.php in German and p. 766 of https://ia801909.us.archive.org/28/items/httpsarchive.orgdetailselectroarch2/S/SiemensTransistorsDataBook1980-81_text.pdf in English) doesn't mention the studless option, so it's also conceivable that these were originally custom made for a customer.


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There are two types. The BFT98  with mounting stud and the BFT98B without mounting stud .    https://archive.org/details/manuallib-id-2675396/mode/2up
 

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Re: Please help identifying those components
« Reply #7 on: February 25, 2024, 10:02:05 pm »
The logo is from Siemens & Halske, the predecessor to today's Siemens. And in that package, it's almost certainly an RF transistor.

A quick search for "siemens 98R RF transistor" turns up the Siemens BFT 98 transistor. Looking at the modern datasheet, it comes in case variants with and without a mounting stud. But the datasheet doesn't indicate "98R" marking, so either it's a different part after all, or they changed the markings at some point. The old databook page (available at https://www.web-bcs.com/transistor/tc/bf/BFT98.php in German and p. 766 of https://ia801909.us.archive.org/28/items/httpsarchive.orgdetailselectroarch2/S/SiemensTransistorsDataBook1980-81_text.pdf in English) doesn't mention the studless option, so it's also conceivable that these were originally custom made for a customer.


P.S. Please use the forum's own image hosting, so that images (and thus context) won't go missing if/when the external image goes away.

There are two types. The BFT98  with mounting stud and the BFT98B without mounting stud .    https://archive.org/details/manuallib-id-2675396/mode/2up
Yeah, I know:

 

A quick search for "siemens 98R RF transistor" turns up the Siemens BFT 98 transistor. Looking at the modern datasheet, it comes in case variants with and without a mounting stud.


The important bit came just after that:

 But the datasheet doesn't indicate "98R" marking, so either it's a different part after all, or they changed the markings at some point.
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(As evidenced by the logo used, the one you linked on archive.org is the modern datasheet.)
« Last Edit: February 25, 2024, 10:05:13 pm by tooki »
 
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Re: Please help identifying those components
« Reply #8 on: February 25, 2024, 11:38:14 pm »
Yeah, I know: ...

I was not attempting to doubt your post nor make an attempt to make you look bad. I was simply adding some information that was lacking in the 2 websites you presented.
https://www.web-bcs.com/transistor/tc/bf/BFT98.php does not indicate it is a dual emitter. This can often confuse the novice when doing a search.
The second site https://ia801909.us.archive.org/28/items/httpsarchive.orgdetailselectroarch2/S/SiemensTransistorsDataBook1980-81_text.pdf does not indicate the difference between the two variants. This can also cause some confusion to a novice.
I apologize for not being clear about my intentions.   
 

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Re: Please help identifying those components
« Reply #9 on: February 26, 2024, 07:24:23 pm »
Yeah, I know: ...

I was not attempting to doubt your post nor make an attempt to make you look bad. I was simply adding some information that was lacking in the 2 websites you presented.
https://www.web-bcs.com/transistor/tc/bf/BFT98.php does not indicate it is a dual emitter. This can often confuse the novice when doing a search.
The second site https://ia801909.us.archive.org/28/items/httpsarchive.orgdetailselectroarch2/S/SiemensTransistorsDataBook1980-81_text.pdf does not indicate the difference between the two variants. This can also cause some confusion to a novice.
I apologize for not being clear about my intentions.
I'm still confused: what information did you add that wasn't already stated in my original reply?

Why did you bring up dual emitter? Nobody said anything about that until now.
 


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