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Offline james_s

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Re: Watts and resistance
« Reply #100 on: April 06, 2020, 04:25:35 pm »
Mentally ill people tend to make me nervous and I think it's because they behave and respond differently than I expect. This makes it difficult for me to determine their intentions or predict how they will act and respond. It's a bit like interacting with an unknown random dog, they may be friendly or they may bite you if you try to pet them.
 
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Re: Watts and resistance
« Reply #101 on: April 06, 2020, 04:31:23 pm »
Most people with mental illnesses..
what still puzzling me  is Krayvonk was playing with fractal rendering, he talked like he knows something but not fully understand. he got comment in his video about something related to 4th dimension or quartenion related i dont know. i never come across this thing. this is wonder of the world..

evolution has made us selfish.
i thought someone said long ago, men/civilization/knowledge will find out/formulate/theorize/implement better way to living... that made "ancient book" unnecessary. you proved/claimed them wrong...

Mentally ill people tend to make me nervous and I think it's because they behave and respond differently than I expect.
imho Mentally ill people are still a lot better than people under the influence of drug/ecstasy or alcohol.
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Re: Watts and resistance
« Reply #102 on: April 06, 2020, 05:28:00 pm »
Who said he was a threat? Most people with mental illnesses aren't dangerous ..

Most aren't, yes...

I used to think exactly that way and really to give everyone a chance, I have stood for the bullied ones, those who are not understood. But, after a few really bad (some ending up just fine, some ending up in life-in-prison due to terrorism!) experiences, I have learned to understand why the large majority uses the group lynching mentality and/or "friends don't let each other play with them" paradigm. While this seems really harsh, and often causes grieve and loneliness to people who are not actually dangerous at all, the reaction is very understandable and works well for the first-order guesstimate to ensure our own safety; yes, evolution has made us selfish. After all, the safety is hard to assess, so people tend to default to "better safe than sorry". Heck, I'm not stupid, still I have failed numerous times to properly evaluate whether I should have anything to do with certain people! Most average people have no choice but to either ignore the "different" people, or carefully join the lynch party, the point here is that no one stands out specifically, so the risk is spread out and minimized.

I have started thinking that maybe "the masses" have a point, after all. By intuition, not careful analysis. Nowadays if I see that 99% of people seem to turn against one, I'm not going to blindly defend the one poor guy anymore, I really think about the "just maybe there is a reason I don't know" side. The bad thing is, most of us do not process these things consciously very well, so it's hard to discuss with others rationally; they just follow their instincts and reject the one poor guy.

I know I sound harsh here, just some analysis about human behavior. Not saying I like it.

OTOH, not too many seem to think depressed (I've been there, and recovered quite amazingly well) people are dangerous. I think our intuition mainly detects very odd behavior, and upredictability as a marker. Which makes us avoid "safely odd" people as well. I personally avoid unpredictable people the most, they give me the hardest time.
Steer clear of people who make you feel uncomfortable, but never forget that one day it could be you or a loved one. Yes, some people with depression can be dangerous. I've had my fair share of mental illness to deal with and have done some pretty crazy things in the past. Fortunately nothing too dangerous or that really harmed anyone, other than myself, but looking back, I can see the potential danger. I'm okay now, despite being stuck at home due to this COVID-19 lockdown, but I know it's not my fault, I'm lucky to be on full pay and it will end, as my employer has made adjustments so it can open and everyone can resume work in a couple of weeks time.

Most people with mental illnesses..
what still puzzling me  is Krayvonk was playing with fractal rendering, he talked like he knows something but not fully understand. he got comment in his video about something related to 4th dimension or quartenion related i dont know. i never come across this thing. this is wonder of the world..
It's easy to jump to conclusions like that. Going by those videos one could easilly be forgiven for thinking he's incapable of writing his own name, let alone posting on the forum, but it's not so clear cut.

Perhaps he was lying about the fractal rendering, or maybe he learned how to do it before becoming ill which is hindering learning electronics?

Either are plausible. Some people with mental illness lie about silly things and it wouldn't surprise me if the illness can hinder someone aquirirng new skills, yet not affect what they've already learned.
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Mentally ill people tend to make me nervous and I think it's because they behave and respond differently than I expect.
imho Mentally ill people are still a lot better than people under the influence of drug/ecstasy or alcohol.
It's often the case we have to deal with both, since substance abuse is common with those who have a mental illness: I'm pretty sure it isn't a cigarette Krayvonk is smoking in those videos. In those cases it's questionable whether it's the drugs which have caused the illness, or the person uses to them to self-medicate. Some people firmly believe the later is always the case: i.e. an alcoholic drinks to numb the pain. Others think it's just the drugs affecting their brain chemistry. I think each case is different. Some people would have been fine had they never touched drugs, which have upset their brain chemisty. Look at how many people get temporarily get prescribed painkillers, whilst an injury heals, yet end up getting hooked and loosing everything, including their sanity. Then there will be others who initially started because the have other phycological problems i.e. someone drinking heavily at parties and out with friends, because they have social anxiety and it loosens them up, only to become hooked. In any case, he needs to quit the drugs before he stands any chance of recovery.
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