is there a penalty for electricity to go in a loop, than in a straight line, with electrical delay?
Yes. Does it matter for beginner-level circuits? Possibly, but probably no.
is there a penalty for electricity to go in a loop, than in a straight line, with electrical delay?
Is there a penalty for the earth going around the sun in a loop, with mechanical delay?
Summary: not a very good troll.
I'm sure they
would welcome you at an ice cream parlour, viz:
robot waffle will do. sounds like im going to ice cream parlour.
That thread was locked, and I've heard another of robowaffe's threads has also been locked.
whats with all this troll business, do u just want me out of here?
whats with all this troll business, do u just want me out of here?
You annoyed many people, when you appeared not to listen when you were told why a 32-bit analogue computer isn't viable.
is there a penalty for electricity to go in a loop, than in a straight line, with electrical delay?
Electricity always goes in a loop. It has to, because a circuit, i.e. loop is required for current to flow.
whats with all this troll business, do u just want me out of here?
You annoyed many people, when you appeared not to listen when you were told why a 32-bit analogue computer isn't viable.
One thread would be tolerable. The same behaviour in all threads becomes tedious, and devalues this forum.
maybe 32 bits isnt viable, but 8 bits is.
My technology im working on is hybrid analogue digital, I bet its already out there and you guys are just scared of nothing.
Electricity always goes in a loop. It has to, because a circuit, i.e. loop is required for current to flow.
Yes. Add more loops, or make a longer loop, and the electricity will take longer to travel, because it travels at about 200 000 000 m/s.
And unless you have a perfect, ideal transmission line, then this is better modeled as an L-R-C circuit than actual speed.
I didn't mean that.
I mean if i have a straight wire, and a crooked wire, does the crook in the wire end up changing the delay time to the other end.
Yes, definitely. You know there is this concept of speed of light which can't be exceeded. But can you actually see the difference in your beginner-level setup? Probably not. But can processor designers or computer motherboard bus designers see it? Definitely yes.
Phone guys call it loop resistance, but what do they know..... It's often double the line resistance. Believe.
Sagnac effect anyone, don't all shout at once!
To test it, as a beginner, u need to set up a 100mhz delay line oscillator, and its theoretically actually not that much wire to get down to 100mhz. its completely feesable in your bedroom.
<snark> I doubt your bedroom can contain over 266 thousand miles of 0.7 velocity factor cable! </snark>
Hint: SI prefixes are case sensitive
<snark> I doubt your bedroom can contain over 266 thousand miles of 0.7 velocity factor cable! </snark>
Hint: SI prefixes are case sensitive
Incorrect, its less than 4 metres of just good litz copper wire to get down to 100mhz.
A wave of 100 mHz has a period of 10 seconds. *DO* *THE* *MATH* !
Correcting your fallacious statements is more tedious and less fruitful than correcting ChatGPT!
A wave of 100 mHz has a period of 10 seconds. *DO* *THE* *MATH* !
Correcting your fallacious statements is more tedious and less fruitful than correcting ChatGPT!
Well I could be wrong.
I'm saying its about a metre, for 100 megahertz if 1 gigahertz is 10 cm. (to encompass the wavelength on the wire.)
Saying a gig is 10 cm comes from a computer lady I saw on the internet, it was from a while back and Im just remembering back from there, actually I probably need to recompute it maybe from the speed of electricity. Ill be back with a recompute, (So I will do the maths.)
Electricity is pretty quick, so am I wrong? How do you come up with such a long distance?
Well. its actually quicker than I thought in another compute. but not by much.
its actually 3 metres for a 100 megahertz.
and the equation is, which is not far off the complexity just doing my shopping list to get my home made spaghetti mix.
wavelength of 100 megaherts wave of electricity = C / hz.
300 million metres per second divided by 100 megahertz = 3 metres!
And u made a big boo boo, 100 megahertz has nothing to do with 10 seconds.
and wavelength is over space not time.
mhz <> MHz
mHz : millihertz
MHz: megahertz
mhz: typo
https://www.eevblog.com/forum/chat/veritasium-how-electricity-actually-works/msg4145404/#msg4145404
Problem is he just speaks in riddles and is a time wasting asshole, his whole business is to keep you hooked so will never explain it in plain english. You may as well read the wikipedia article he stripped anything useful out of to inspire his scripts.
Exactly. He's right up the OP's street!
A wave of 100 mHz has a period of 10 seconds. *DO* *THE* *MATH* !
Correcting your fallacious statements is more tedious and less fruitful than correcting ChatGPT!
Well I could be wrong.
I'm saying its about a metre, for 100 megahertz if 1 gigahertz is 10 cm. (to encompass the wavelength on the wire.)
Saying a gig is 10 cm comes from a computer lady I saw on the internet, it was from a while back and Im just remembering back from there, actually I probably need to recompute it maybe from the speed of electricity. Ill be back with a recompute, (So I will do the maths.)
Electricity is pretty quick, so am I wrong? How do you come up with such a long distance?
For the final time. Pefixes are case sensitive. You said 100mHz, which is 100 milli herz, 100*10
-3 = 0.1Hz.
Common Si prefixes used in electronics are:
1p = 10
-121n = 10
-91µ = 10
-61m = 10
-31k = 10
31M = 10
61G = 10
91T = 10
12Note: it's fine to put 1u, rather than 1µ because it's not in the ASCII character set, even though the forum now supports Unicode.
I dont know you can bother to write all that text out just to tell me I wrote a lower case m than a higher case m, for megahertz.
this is a complete joke.
No-one really has nothing much better to do, obviously.
That we just like being annoying gits, kinda thing.
No-one really has nothing much better to do, obviously.
That we just like being annoying gits, kinda thing.
Don't assume that you are like other people on this forum.
For slow switching circuits over short distances like an inch or two, you don't have to worry too much.
There's a great video series available on O’Reilly Media from Howard Johnson (the Godfather of digital signals) that you can watch for free with the trial. Worth it. Even worth a month subscription.
https://www.oreilly.com/library/view/high-speed-digital-design/9780134584577/?_gl=1*1maotqy*_ga*NDU3ODE4NTkxLjE2OTA5NjYzMjQ.*_ga_092EL089CH*MTY5MDk2NjMyNC4xLjEuMTY5MDk2NjM0Ni4zOC4wLjA.