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Jwillis:
I got this working well with the new Mosfets I've been waiting for. Originally it had IRFP260NPbF but there was no definition for DC SOA so it was  kind of a crapshoot to determine what maximum current I could pass through them in a parallel configuration. Turns out its ball park 2.5 amps at around 20V but thats the best guess based on failure. The new ones I'm using are the FDL100N50F  https://www.onsemi.com/pub/Collateral/FDL100N50F-D.pdf Can handle much more.

The problem is not really a problem but more a possibility. With the other mosfets ,when one bank goes all the other ones crater to because they have to take more load. I want to add a circuit to protect each driver bank just in case one fails during a high load situation. I thought about fuses but I'm not sure if they would work fast enough. Each bank should be able to handle at least 7 amps at 14 - 15 volts and  at the most 3 amps at 40V . Since the dynamics change ,fuses just don't seem practical. I'm not sure which way I should go on this challenge.

GerryR:
As a first look, I think I would monitor / sum the the three sense resistor voltages for each bank, compare the two banks, and for a defined difference between banks shut the power down.  You could do it on a transistor-to-transistor basis, but with more circuitry.  Just my first thoughts.  :-//

RoGeorge:
Monitor the temperature of MOSFETs, or the output voltage of each of the opamps.

Vovk_Z:

--- Quote from: Jwillis on February 12, 2020, 05:30:24 am ---With the other mosfets ,when one bank goes all the other ones crater to because they have to take more load. I want to add a circuit to protect each driver bank just in case one fails during a high load situation. I thought about fuses but I'm not sure if they would work fast enough.
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1) Such situation could be only in Constant Power mode, if you have one. If we speak about only Constant Current mode then others don't get more current.
2) When Mosfet dies it with 90% possibility will die close but not open, so any electronic protection won't help. That means you need a fuse (the simplest way) and it will be OK in 99% situations as for me. Only if you want go another way you can consider some electronic key, but the truth is that first dies power mosfet - then current rises - and after that will you protection work. It means that we can go back to way with a only protective fuse. So you should consider if you really have a need for sophisticated protection.
3) One FDL10050F case can dissipate 100V and 10 A (1000W) simultaneously with adequate cooling.
4) Any of IRFP260, 360, 460 (TO247 case) can withstand about 70-80 W safely. And even up to 100 W depends on cooling quality.
5) A little question to shunt resistance - 0.12 R. 0.1 R is widespread. But if you wan't to put 7 A into one mosfet (and shunt) then I'll use 0.02 R, or 0.025 R or 0.05 R shunt maximum. For example something like OAR5R050FLF or OAR5R025FLF (they are sold on ebay).

Jwillis:

--- Quote from: RoGeorge on February 12, 2020, 12:48:15 pm ---Monitor the temperature of MOSFETs, or the output voltage of each of the opamps.

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I considered a temperature shut down. If I set a maximum temperature well in an area of SOA and have it shut down the system if that temperature goes above set point. This is a very good idea. Thank you


--- Quote from: Vovk_Z on February 12, 2020, 12:49:52 pm ---5) A little question to shunt resistance - 0.12 R. 0.1 R is widespread. But if you wan't to put 7 A into one mosfet (and shunt) then I'll use 0.02 R, or 0.025 R or 0.05 R shunt maximum. For example something like OAR5R050FLF or OAR5R025FLF (they are sold on ebay).

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I'll look into those resistors for sure . The ones in the circuit now are only 5W ceramics (don't have anything better than that right now) So adding a resistor in parallel would help. I suppose ceramics would have more drift than a proper shunt resistor .
I did some calculations on the heat sinks I have and with active cooling they should be OK. Providing I did the calculations right . An online   calculator seemed to concur what I found. Fingers crossed and keep monitoring temperatures I guess.
Thank you Sir.

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