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Offline shivajikobardanTopic starter

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Didn't make notes. And sold all notes which I made lol for cents(it can't be get back now). Engineering is ending in few days. I am truly regretting this stupidity. I have notes of few subjects that I failed in 2nd and 3rd year like 2-3 subjects and notes of subjects from 7th semester...8th semester is running currently. What od I do? I am ece student. trying to enter into programming web development at first and then enter into electronics industry moving abroad.

Now studying 1 subject on my own completely will take me at least 1.5 months to complete it. For eg say I want to enter programming web development. Then there will be around 15 subjects to study which is almost 2 years time wasted. What to do ? really worried..
 

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I'm not a note taker myself so my question would be: did you pay attention? Did you learn anything?
If not, are you sure you are in the correct field? Engineering should be an interest and most good engineers I know self-educate constantly. Also in their spare time.

My suggestion would be to do some projects, document them and publish them online.
Then, bring them to interviews and be prepared to answer questions about it.

Bringing a hardware project to a client looking for a web-dev is not a bad idea (a web project is obviously better), though you will need to prepare to answer relevant questions that your project does not touch.
F.ex maybe you have an internet connected widget that serves a simple HTML page. Then they will ask about databases, frontend frameworks and whatever you did not show an existing knowledge of.

Good luck!
 

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I am bewildered by your perspective.  That includes even basic essentials like cooking for yourself.

Didn't make notes. And sold all notes which I made lol for cents(it can't be get back now). Engineering is ending in few days. I am truly regretting this stupidity. I have notes of few subjects that I failed in 2nd and 3rd year like 2-3 subjects and notes of subjects from 7th semester...8th semester is running currently. What od I do? I am ece student. trying to enter into programming web development at first and then enter into electronics industry moving abroad.
Failing one subject can happen.  Failing several may mean you are not in the right field.
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Now studying 1 subject on my own completely will take me at least 1.5 months to complete it. For eg say I want to enter programming web development. Then there will be around 15 subjects to study which is almost 2 years time wasted. What to do ? really worried..
THAT (underlined) is what bewilders me.  Put another way, you have spent 8 semesters studying to be an EE, now you want to change to web design and consider that any additional time needed is wasted.  My advice is that neither is wasted time if you learned the subject matter.  On the other hand if you failed EE and are now changing because of that, then it is likely any additional time spent trying to learn a new field -- any new field -- will also be wasted.  Have you talked with your parents?  Maybe they decided to leave you alone for a week as a lesson in "tough love."  My mom's advice more times than I can remember was "[son] you have to work hard, or you will lose your job, go broke, and starve to death."  Maybe your mom and my mom knew each other? :)
 
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Shows me your lack of understanding, lack of trying to be the best in your class, lack of love for the subject matter in the first place tells me you will be as worthless as the other similar lackies that company 'GX' hired to write code and control 4400+ Horsepower hoping to not have major explosions. Now you want our help to make up for you being basically a pod. Your other post a month or so back was just as lame. Well, here is some advice, use all the important buzz words on your resume so the algorithm parsers will select you to be hired as an H1B. Make sure to ask for at least a $100k starting salary so the dumb asses in the H.R. department will think you are an outstanding candidate for the job and stay as far as you can away from my lab where I hire people who can carry through and actually solve problems on their own or at least offer credible solutions. Sorry, I am bitter that numb nutz like you get hired over people who actually love the subject they are trained in. They search data online, read books, trade papers and journals and impress the hell out of me every day I interact with them!!
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Didn't make notes. And sold all notes which I made lol for cents(it can't be get back now). Engineering is ending in few days. I am truly regretting this stupidity. I have notes of few subjects that I failed in 2nd and 3rd year like 2-3 subjects and notes of subjects from 7th semester...8th semester is running currently. What od I do? I am ece student. trying to enter into programming web development at first and then enter into electronics industry moving abroad.

Now studying 1 subject on my own completely will take me at least 1.5 months to complete it. For eg say I want to enter programming web development. Then there will be around 15 subjects to study which is almost 2 years time wasted. What to do ? really worried..

Can't tell if you are trolling or for real, but assuming you are for real....

Good luck with engineering, software, business, and life without taking notes.
Or maybe start taking notes.

Seriously, taking notes is not that hard.  Mostly it takes discipline, which starts with a decision to do it.
Take notes the best way you can by hand or computer or both.  Get as much down as you can.  The key is to then go back to review and summarize your notes.  This process of reviewing and summarizing is just as important as getting the notes documented in the first place.  The review and summarizing steps help transfer info from your short term memory (like RAM) to your long term memory (like disk storage).

Read and do this:
https://www.wellesley.edu/sites/default/files/assets/departments/pltc/files/students/NotesOnNotes.pdf

Over time if you are computer literate you can do a lot of it on a computer or a tablet, but even if you start with a pen/pencil and paper it will help, maybe a lot.

Take notes, review and summarize them as appropriate, learn the material.

After planting (which was the beginning of the end of nomadic wandering by hunters and gatherers constantly in search of food) the next big revolution that increased human productivity was writing.  Planting and writing might have both developed about the same time.  "Where did we plant those seeds?  Next year we should maybe write down where we planted the seeds so we can find the food."  That might have been about 10,000 years ago.  It's good to take notes.
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Chuck it all in and get a job as an trainee chef
 

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Just graduate get the degree. You can make decent money with the degree and without knowledge.
 
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Failing one subject can happen.  Failing several may mean you are not in the right field.
Really depends on the uni. And the country. And everything else.
The one where I studied, it was regular that classes had 50% pass rating at an end of semester test. It was the usual way to get more money from the government (and us) that was paying for our education. Yes it was free (as in beer) unless you failed a subject, than you had to pay a fee based on the credits. Plus you had to retake it, which was easy money for them.
 
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Leave school (preferably with a degree) and do something completely different for a year or two.  Work, travel, whatever.  You'll figure it out.
 

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To be fair to the OP, I had a long education and took copious notes during the lectures, but never referred back to them during my career.  Instead, I used the collection of textbooks from the courses when I needed the equations.
 

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Sometimes the act of taking notes is in itself helpful to retention (even if you never refer to them). OTOH, some note-takers are so offline that they practically write down sneezes.

Probably the majority of the world works without passion. But this is engineering, damn it!
 
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A few responses above can be (should be) ignored.  Don't panic.  I have always been terrible at taking useful notes and have never looked back at the ones I did take.  However, I have referred to many of my text books.  If there is something you're good at you'll eventually find a way to make a living doing it.
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Now studying 1 subject on my own completely will take me at least 1.5 months to complete it. For eg say I want to enter programming web development. Then there will be around 15 subjects to study which is almost 2 years time wasted. What to do ? really worried..

My advice: find a career where learning the material doesn't seem like a waste of time. If the thought of studying web development makes you sad, then you should not become a web developer.
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Lady Diana failed her school exam, twice, and still became a Princess  ;)
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Most important thing right now is to graduate.

You may want to read up on the ikagai concept, i.e. finding:
  • What you love
  • What you’re good at
  • What you can be paid for
  • What the world needs

Engineering is a large field.

Personally, I have classmates who graduated with high honours going into fields that are more business development, sales rather than engineering. If you're not doing hard core engineering, an engineering degree is IMHO, just a gauge to show that you're capable of learning and thinking. Most of the learning happens on the job.

Likewise, for programming, learning a language does little to show that you're capable of programming. Do some projects to build up your skills.
 

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Shows me your lack of understanding, lack of trying to be the best in your class, lack of love for the subject matter in the first place tells me you will be as worthless as the other similar lackies that company 'GX' hired to write code and control 4400+ Horsepower hoping to not have major explosions. Now you want our help to make up for you being basically a pod. Your other post a month or so back was just as lame. Well, here is some advice, use all the important buzz words on your resume so the algorithm parsers will select you to be hired as an H1B. Make sure to ask for at least a $100k starting salary so the dumb asses in the H.R. department will think you are an outstanding candidate for the job and stay as far as you can away from my lab where I hire people who can carry through and actually solve problems on their own or at least offer credible solutions. Sorry, I am bitter that numb nutz like you get hired over people who actually love the subject they are trained in. They search data online, read books, trade papers and journals and impress the hell out of me every day I interact with them!!

[Fx: slow hand clap]

If you'd read this guys other posts you'd realise, as if one couldn't from what he's written here, that he's suffering from a crisis of confidence. I just hope that when you need help you run into someone as "helpful" as yourself, you deserve it.
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Anyone can have huge motivation problems that appear out of nowhere, and seemingly have no cause,   because u'd definitely benefit from finishing your work,  everyone does guaranteed.

Maybe quitting UNI and just working on your engineering at home might be a good option,    Is there any devices you'd have fun putting together by yourself?  Like some game or maybe a home made computer?   Do you have any unfullfilled technology dreams?

Alot of people who fail uni actually are better suited to assigning their own projects to themselves,     if there is no interest, then theres no work put in.  Maybe its god playing a trick on you (Making u disinterested.),   he plays tricks on all of us.  And theres not much man can do about it, so here I choose to not ever judge. :P
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I have sought out the elders in the field and listened and learned. I had a passion for my field since childhood. I read everything I could get my hands on. I hung out in the garages and radio shacks of ham radio operators. When I didn't understand I sought out those who did. At no time did I ever lose sense of direction and say "This is to hard". The O.P. may lack sense of direction. He seems to want to enter a field of which he has no natural talent for and therefore meanders aimlessly with simple tasks being difficult due to lack of passion. Countless times those who worked for me have said "When you explain it I understand it". Then we have a situation where the minds of many professors and engineers can't relate to their students!! They simply put are great minds but poor teachers. Teachers have to have the fire and passion for the subject at hand. Case in point, our design engineers wrote the product test procedures. They were so incomprehensible to the lesser skilled QA/QC minions that it took way longer than expected to do simple tasks. I re-wrote the test procedures, the engineers usually wouldn't sign off on my rendition because it hurt their pride. So we had the 'official ISO stuff' laying on the desktops and the "I can actually follow this logical flow" procedures sitting on the laps of the QA/QC team. I have been out of the particular contract manufacturer for years but my procedures are in the files along with the official ones. The O.P. doesn't seem to be a problem solver and balks at challenges as opposed to having the 'I can do this no matter how tough it gets' as well as seeming to be hugely disorganized in his task management. These shortcomings will become apparent as an employee, seen it time after time. One thing I remember my guitar teacher telling me "It is so simple if you'll just let it be"!  I myself was making it difficult because I believed in my mind's eye that it was. That was a revelation in lifelong learning. B.T.W., several of the folks I have mentored have rewarding careers today because they had the ambition and I communicated the hows and whys of the field and we spent many evenings and weekends off the clock building and testing their designs and having FUN along the way keeping their passion alive!!!

 
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@shivajikobardan: I'm sorry, I haven't really got any new advice for you. I know from other posts of yours that you've sought professional advice and it clearly isn't really helping at the moment so you've turned to the "experts" here. Well, as you can see, there aren't any experts here, not at getting over life's psychological road bumps anyway, just a few well meaning souls and one or two self-obsessed idiots who'd have to look up solipsistic in a dictionary.

One suggestion that's come up several times is some variant on "take a break" and when you face problems you can't fix, trivial or serious, that's often good advice. I can't count how many times something hasn't been going my way, be it as trivial as trying to get an awkward bolt to fit something or as significant as figuring out whether it was time to change jobs, when just walking away from it for a bit was all that needed. Taking a break isn't "quitting", it's "getting your breath back so that you're ready to try again". How long a break you need to get your wind back only you can tell. It might be a week, it might be a year.

Other advice has included getting some exercise, and there's no doubt that it's good for one's mental well being and often more effective than all the drugs and therapy that medics like to dole out. Think about combining a break and some exercise, a couple of weeks walking holiday in the hills somewhere can work wonders for one's state of mind and perspective on things. Unfortunately it isn't a cure for the kind of terminal narcissism that leads one to write "I" seventeen times in a single paragraph in a topic where one is supposed to be trying to offer someone else some help and comfort.
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I have sought out the elders in the field and listened and learned. I had a passion for my field since childhood. I read everything I could get my hands on. I hung out in the garages and radio shacks of ham radio operators. When I didn't understand I sought out those who did. At no time did I ever lose sense of direction and say "This is to hard". The O.P. may lack sense of direction. He seems to want to enter a field of which he has no natural talent for and therefore meanders aimlessly with simple tasks being difficult due to lack of passion. Countless times those who worked for me have said "When you explain it I understand it". Then we have a situation where the minds of many professors and engineers can't relate to their students!! They simply put are great minds but poor teachers. Teachers have to have the fire and passion for the subject at hand. Case in point, our design engineers wrote the product test procedures. They were so incomprehensible to the lesser skilled QA/QC minions that it took way longer than expected to do simple tasks. I re-wrote the test procedures, the engineers usually wouldn't sign off on my rendition because it hurt their pride. So we had the 'official ISO stuff' laying on the desktops and the "I can actually follow this logical flow" procedures sitting on the laps of the QA/QC team. I have been out of the particular contract manufacturer for years but my procedures are in the files along with the official ones. The O.P. doesn't seem to be a problem solver and balks at challenges as opposed to having the 'I can do this no matter how tough it gets' as well as seeming to be hugely disorganized in his task management. These shortcomings will become apparent as an employee, seen it time after time. One thing I remember my guitar teacher telling me "It is so simple if you'll just let it be"!  I myself was making it difficult because I believed in my mind's eye that it was. That was a revelation in lifelong learning. B.T.W., several of the folks I have mentored have rewarding careers today because they had the ambition and I communicated the hows and whys of the field and we spent many evenings and weekends off the clock building and testing their designs and having FUN along the way keeping their passion alive!!!

You've used "I" to refer to yourself seventeen times in a single paragraph that ought to be about trying to help someone else. That is clearly messed up and I'm completely serious when I say you ought to sit back and think about that. Is this characteristic of your approach to life, making everything about you and your achievements? (Having a footer on every message that lists your "rank" in several areas of endeavour would suggest so, most people just have a quote, a joke, or list an area(s) of interest.) Focusing on what you believe you have achieved when you should be applying empathy?  If so, I think you may have problems enough of your own. "Physician heal thyself" would seem apt here.
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Better?
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I dont know about you but me,  definitely BETTER.

good...  better... BEAST.
 

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Mee sorry mee write in first person singular!!! Try again preaze. You could read journals and trade papers in the career path You seek. You could seek out mentors, professors and fellow students with similar interests for a study group. You could take a break with that same group and play a relaxing round of UNO or draw poker. You could make copies of Your notes prior to selling them, make multiple sales, be entrepreneur. You could have a 4 drawer file cabinet with practically every note You have ever taken. You could scan those notes, place them on a DVD-R indexed, then burn the paper notes for heat and sell the file cabinet for profit. You could endeavor a career path that keeps You up at night with excitement. When You reach a high point in one career and have lots of dead wood above You making progress at a stand still You could have a rewarding career in 3 other unrelated fields!! You could hollow out a log and paddle it around the world then write a best seller about Your experiences and make more money in one year than us engineers make in a lifetime! You could build the first rocket ship shaped like a letter 'T' because it is more fun that way, and besides some dimwit already thinks that's what motorcycles are supposed to look like. If You want compassion just ask any Asian student in Your university. You can easily find them, They will be eating Your lunch and applying for Your job. You may want to learn Mandarin Chinese and perhaps a bit of Russian or even Korean as that appears to be the upcoming language of The New World Order. Have Mee used 'YOU' or YOUR at least 17 times now?? Mee not use Eye this time!!!  JUST FIND SOMETHING YOU LOVE THAT ISN'T ILLEGAL AND DO IT, DEGREE OR NOT. 10-4, Over.....
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