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Rigol DS1054Z - Successor after ~5 years?

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rstofer:
The SDS1104X-E can be unlocked to be equivalent to the 200 MHz 4 Channel SDS1204X-E - details in the Test Equipment forum.  Yes, it costs more than the DS1054Z.

There's no way of knowing what is coming around the corner and the manufacturers won't say because it will disrupt sales of the existing product.  Given that Rigol dominates the entry level scope market, they won't be disrupting that anytime soon.  Siglent has 3 entries in the lower range so they're not going to do anything soon.  At some point, the only players left are high dollar.

Even if the DS1054Z went EOL the day after purchase, it's still a great scope for the money.

Rooster Cogburn:
Maybe I'm thinking about this the wrong way, but it still feels to me like I'm buying that one Mac Pro that Apple hasn't updated in half a decade :)

tautech:

--- Quote from: Rooster Cogburn on March 10, 2019, 12:16:54 pm ---
--- Quote from: tautech on March 10, 2019, 10:28:04 am ---Have a good hard look at SDS1104X-E, a bit dearer but beats the 54Z in many respects.

Check the comparison chart in this post:
https://www.eevblog.com/forum/testgear/siglent-sds1204x-e-released-for-domestic-markets-in-china/msg1290409/#msg1290409


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Yeah, I had a look at the alternatives from Siglent. There's basically a 200Mhz 2 channel competitor for a tiny bit more and a 4 channel alternative north of 500EUR. I'd say the SDS1104X-E is out of my budget and I'm not sure about the 2 channel variant. I don't really have that much experience with a scope and while I have a few basic use cases established, it's hard for me to predict what I'll need a year or two down the road. The 54Z with its 100Mhz soft-upgrade apparently even goes a little beyond that, so I suspect I'm good there. The logic analyzer and function generator updates and the build-in web server sure look neat...

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Yep I get that loud and clear and until you have some real scope experience you can only be guided by us on the forum and the info you can find here.
You need study some more IMHO and sleep on it some.
Your whole life has been without a scope, what's another couple of weeks ?

Study up on the datasheets, videos and comparison tables and come back with questions about the stuff you don't understand.

Rooster Cogburn:

--- Quote from: tautech on March 10, 2019, 07:55:25 pm ---Yep I get that loud and clear and until you have some real scope experience you can only be guided by us on the forum and the info you can find here.
You need study some more IMHO and sleep on it some.
Your whole life has been without a scope, what's another couple of weeks ?

Study up on the datasheets, videos and comparison tables and come back with questions about the stuff you don't understand.

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I can study all time and still won't know what I'll need down the road :) The only thing that I truly worry about is how bad buying a five year old model really is. Nobody would buy a 5 years old computer or TV unless it was at a massive discount. Maybe scopes move slower, that's why I made this thread. If it wasn't for that concern, I would have bought the DS1054Z already. I know the Rigol is great for my immediate use cases and it's among the lowest cost models. The more expensive alternatives sure look 'cool', but don't really have anything that I truly need and I'd rather not spend more. I would happily wait a while longer if there was an updated model around the corner that would deliver more for the same price... Looks like that's either not the case or impossible to say.

tautech:
Rooster, many here have been in your exact position !
Let the datasheets guide you not what you can get for free with a hack.

There's a reason why the Siglent 4ch models are dearer and right at the limit of your budget, I get that and deal with it everyday with my business inquiries.

At this point your DSO inexperience is creating indecision and holding you back from making a choice.
Down the track when you want more from a DSO other than basic scope use is when the Siglent will come into its own with 2x the sampling rate, higher sensitivity and a faster processor that can support the additional functionality they have now and any you might add on later.
54Z and 1104X-E each have their followers but the feature set and datasheet for each is what you need focus on.

Either is a scope you can grow into but the X-E will allow more growth and serve more complex requirements into your future better.
Enjoy the ride.  ;)

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