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Rigol DS1054Z - Successor after ~5 years?

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Rooster Cogburn:
I checked for imports and that doesn't make much financial sense inside the EU.

It seems the scopes hold their value quite well. I would've expected the 1052E to crash in price completely now that massively improved successor is out, but that didn't happen. It's still around ~300EUR new, which is absolutely insane considering that the 54Z is only ~80EUR more. I also didn't find any spectacular deals on the used market and 3 years of warranty from Batronix is nice.

The SDS1104X-E unlocked to 200Mhz and generally better specs with the option of later adding a logic analyzer and waveform generator is a more future proof buy, but probably not worth the extra ~130EUR to me.

Mortymore:

--- Quote from: Rooster Cogburn on March 11, 2019, 11:14:34 am ---The SDS1104X-E unlocked to 200Mhz and generally better specs with the option of later adding a logic analyzer and waveform generator is a more future proof buy, but probably not worth the extra ~130EUR to me.

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It's your money and your needs so in the end it's up to you.
To me the Siglent worth at least 2x the Rigol.

As advised, you should read the datasheets, but one good way to make judgments for yourself in this days is to watch videos on the web.
For instance, just se the latest Dave video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=707&v=nImoQcoqkuQ

There you have FFT capability in action for 3 of the scopes that was being mentioned here. They all claim to do it... that some are better than others.

One note: For the GW-Intek that Dave shows, there's an APP I believe it works on the 1000E series too, that splits the signal input from the FFT display in 2 windows, and not one on top of the other as shown in video. I have that APP on my IDS-2074E, that you can see on the picture attached.

And one more thing. If you intend to "hack" a scope don't forget to check if the test probes can handle the upgrade frequency well. I did it to my scope but I had already 4 200MHz Tektronix probes. I don't know if the probes that came with my scope were good for 200Mhz, since I never used them. The only ones I know of, from what I read in this forum, is that the probes that came with the Siglent 100Mhz are good to go for 200MHz.

EDIT: The IDS-2074E came with 100MHz probes, reference GTP-101A-2

Gyro:

--- Quote from: Rooster Cogburn on March 10, 2019, 02:28:54 pm ---
--- Quote from: JoeO on March 10, 2019, 02:13:50 pm ---Rooster - You have a case of "Analysis Paralysis".

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If this scope came out 1 year ago I would've probably just bought it. But since it's a 2014 model it feels like a major refresh is about due?

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Careful what you wish for, you might get a few years of refreshing bugs too.  :)

bd139:

--- Quote from: Gyro on March 11, 2019, 11:51:35 am ---
--- Quote from: Rooster Cogburn on March 10, 2019, 02:28:54 pm ---
--- Quote from: JoeO on March 10, 2019, 02:13:50 pm ---Rooster - You have a case of "Analysis Paralysis".

--- End quote ---

If this scope came out 1 year ago I would've probably just bought it. But since it's a 2014 model it feels like a major refresh is about due?

--- End quote ---

Careful what you wish for, you might get a few years of refreshing bugs too.  :)

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Yes. I am watching the MSO5000 thread at the moment  :-DD

It went "ooh shiny" to "hmm buggy" to "I'll wait".

alsetalokin4017:

--- Quote from: Rooster Cogburn on March 11, 2019, 11:14:34 am ---I checked for imports and that doesn't make much financial sense inside the EU.

It seems the scopes hold their value quite well. I would've expected the 1052E to crash in price completely now that massively improved successor is out, but that didn't happen. It's still around ~300EUR new, which is absolutely insane considering that the 54Z is only ~80EUR more. I also didn't find any spectacular deals on the used market and 3 years of warranty from Batronix is nice.

The SDS1104X-E unlocked to 200Mhz and generally better specs with the option of later adding a logic analyzer and waveform generator is a more future proof buy, but probably not worth the extra ~130EUR to me.

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Perhaps you miss my point. There are not very many _used_ DS1054Z scopes on the market, in spite of the facts that there are lots of them in the field and they've been around for years, and the used ones that do show up cost nearly as much as new-in-box. What does that tell you?

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