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Offline rudepurpleTopic starter

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Selfmade USB-Cable Troubleshooting
« on: May 08, 2020, 12:07:43 pm »
Hello everybody,

i have some trouble with a selfmade usb cable. I want to charge my Sony Hdr-AS50 Actioncam(https://www.sony.com/electronics/actioncam/hdr-as50) with a powerbank(https://www.anker.com/store/powercore-13000/A1215011). Using the original cable that came with the power bank everything works fine but not with my selfmade one. Even weirder is that both cables work with a older power bank.

I am using a A-Type Connector and a Micro-B Connctor (The orignal cable uses the same). The wiring is done to the following schematic:


Using a voltmeter i reasured the pinout of the two cables is identical.

Can someone please explain me this behaviour?
« Last Edit: May 08, 2020, 12:32:53 pm by rudepurple »
 

Offline Mp3

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Re: Selfmade USB-Cable Troubleshooting
« Reply #1 on: May 08, 2020, 12:22:40 pm »
Your schematic is not in your post.

I am going to guess that your diy cable has the wrong resistance from end to end and the  smarter power bank is checking this and refusing to charge it
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Offline rudepurpleTopic starter

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Re: Selfmade USB-Cable Troubleshooting
« Reply #2 on: May 08, 2020, 12:27:55 pm »
i ran into trouble with google drive there.
Should be fixed now.

The cable in the image is my second attempt. I cut the original cable and just shortened it and put my own connectors on it. Shouldn't the end to end resistance stay the same?
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Re: Selfmade USB-Cable Troubleshooting
« Reply #3 on: May 08, 2020, 12:46:35 pm »
It probably should be the same resistance then. I imagined you used some different cable.

and what happens you connect ID to ground?
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Offline rudepurpleTopic starter

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Re: Selfmade USB-Cable Troubleshooting
« Reply #4 on: May 08, 2020, 01:02:11 pm »
I was thinking about the ID pin too, but according to the usb standard it only should be pulled to ground in order to get a host cable.
Probing the working cables shows that ID and GND are not connected
I get some deviating measurements on the resistance of the diy cable. So for now i will further investigate the resistance idea following this website: https://www.tablix.org/~avian/blog/archives/2019/06/measuring_usb_cable_resistance/. I am using cheap connectors. Mayber that is the problem.

Thank you.
More ideas are still welcome
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Re: Selfmade USB-Cable Troubleshooting
« Reply #5 on: May 08, 2020, 01:28:56 pm »
I was thinking about the ID pin too, but according to the usb standard it only should be pulled to ground in order to get a host cable.
Probing the working cables shows that ID and GND are not connected
I get some deviating measurements on the resistance of the diy cable. So for now i will further investigate the resistance idea following this website: https://www.tablix.org/~avian/blog/archives/2019/06/measuring_usb_cable_resistance/. I am using cheap connectors. Mayber that is the problem.

Thank you.
More ideas are still welcome

Good luck. I know the ID pin is not needed by the usb standard, but Sony is well known for ignoring (or deliberately messing with) wiring/protocol standards
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Re: Selfmade USB-Cable Troubleshooting
« Reply #6 on: May 09, 2020, 10:33:34 am »
Is the D+ and D- really crossed over like that?

Might mean the camera detects the wrong type of charger, although if they both measure the same...

Also try without any D-/D+ connected at all, that should delivery 500ma if the camera is willing to take it.

 


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