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Solder Paste Newb, Question about storage and shelf life?
« on: December 07, 2018, 08:00:45 pm »
I have been doing electronics for about 6 years now including lots of smt, but I always hand solder using a small tip and .033 solder or finer. Yesterday I was at my local home depot and was surprised to see they have actually started selling digital Weller stations along with decent solder and silver bearing solder paste.

I picked up a tube it is "Solder It" brand, here is a link to the product
https://www.walmart.com/ip/Solder-It-SP-7-Silver-Bearing-Solder-Paste-7-1-Gram-Syringe/48345692?wmlspartner=wlpa&selectedSellerId=1235&adid=22222222227036523273&wl0=&wl1=g&wl2=c&wl3=57790002698&wl4=aud-481962823846:pla-90126840818&wl5=9031411&wl6=&wl7=&wl8=&wl9=pla&wl10=112354589&wl11=online&wl12=48345692&wl13=&veh=sem&gclid=CjwKCAiA0ajgBRA4EiwA9gFOR7XU3jwsHK1v-ivTlJ9xBiaH1DSQVCySJ9SPMIO7nlFviW03eKWupxoC0EsQAvD_BwE

So is this just standard solder paste? There was no expiration date or storage directions. Im under the impression paste only lasts 6 months and needs to be stored in a refrigerator, this was just out on a shelf? Can I just leave this stuff out on my bench and it will stay good forever, or do I need to keep it stored cool, will it expire, if so how do I know it is bad?

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Re: Solder Paste Newb, Question about storage and shelf life?
« Reply #1 on: December 07, 2018, 08:09:34 pm »
I have been doing electronics for about 6 years now including lots of smt, but I always hand solder using a small tip and .033 solder or finer. Yesterday I was at my local home depot and was surprised to see they have actually started selling digital Weller stations along with decent solder and silver bearing solder paste.

I picked up a tube it is "Solder It" brand, here is a link to the product
https://www.walmart.com/ip/Solder-It-SP-7-Silver-Bearing-Solder-Paste-7-1-Gram-Syringe/48345692?wmlspartner=wlpa&selectedSellerId=1235&adid=22222222227036523273&wl0=&wl1=g&wl2=c&wl3=57790002698&wl4=aud-481962823846:pla-90126840818&wl5=9031411&wl6=&wl7=&wl8=&wl9=pla&wl10=112354589&wl11=online&wl12=48345692&wl13=&veh=sem&gclid=CjwKCAiA0ajgBRA4EiwA9gFOR7XU3jwsHK1v-ivTlJ9xBiaH1DSQVCySJ9SPMIO7nlFviW03eKWupxoC0EsQAvD_BwE

So is this just standard solder paste? There was no expiration date or storage directions. Im under the impression paste only lasts 6 months and needs to be stored in a refrigerator, this was just out on a shelf? Can I just leave this stuff out on my bench and it will stay good forever, or do I need to keep it stored cool, will it expire, if so how do I know it is bad?

Unfortunately, the Solder-It website has zero useful information about their product.
 

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Re: Solder Paste Newb, Question about storage and shelf life?
« Reply #2 on: December 07, 2018, 09:32:07 pm »
Actually, on their support page it has one useful item about it: http://www.solder-it.com/manuals/sp7msds.pdf

The shelf life is probably pretty long, but I would not let that stuff touch real electronics. It literally contains petroleum jelly. The Zinc Ammonium Cloride doesn't excite me, either.

Electronics is, at least for marketing purposes, an extremely broad term. If the paste isn't advertised for SMD applications, it likely isn't suitable for our kind of electronics. Advertised shelf lives are usually about 6 months if properly sealed, double that if refrigerated when not in use. Those tend to be conservative numbers, so reality is longer, but eventually it becomes unusable.
 

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Re: Solder Paste Newb, Question about storage and shelf life?
« Reply #3 on: December 07, 2018, 10:04:05 pm »
Amazon carries it.  I would suggest the versions that include a dispensing needle and pick leaded versus lead-free as you wish.

https://www.amazon.com/s/ref=nb_sb_noss_1?url=search-alias%3Daps&field-keywords=solder+paste

Free Prime shipping on most and I would buy 63Sn/37Pb for my projects.

Do another search for paste flux, you will need it!
 

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Re: Solder Paste Newb, Question about storage and shelf life?
« Reply #4 on: December 07, 2018, 10:06:55 pm »
I heard that some people put in a small refrigerator or really on a concealled part of the refrigerator... I don't know if it is a good idea or not because of possible contamination with micro organisms , Humidity unless very sealled. I could be wrong and talking crap.. but who knows...
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Re: Solder Paste Newb, Question about storage and shelf life?
« Reply #5 on: December 07, 2018, 10:15:20 pm »
Actually, on their support page it has one useful item about it: http://www.solder-it.com/manuals/sp7msds.pdf

The shelf life is probably pretty long, but I would not let that stuff touch real electronics. It literally contains petroleum jelly. The Zinc Ammonium Cloride doesn't excite me, either.

Electronics is, at least for marketing purposes, an extremely broad term. If the paste isn't advertised for SMD applications, it likely isn't suitable for our kind of electronics. Advertised shelf lives are usually about 6 months if properly sealed, double that if refrigerated when not in use. Those tend to be conservative numbers, so reality is longer, but eventually it becomes unusable.
This is pretty much a standard lead free "plumbers" paste, not for electronics. The plumbing stuff lasts forever damn near.
 

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Re: Solder Paste Newb, Question about storage and shelf life?
« Reply #6 on: December 08, 2018, 05:13:53 am »
I heard that some people put in a small refrigerator or really on a concealled part of the refrigerator... I don't know if it is a good idea or not because of possible contamination with micro organisms , Humidity unless very sealled. I could be wrong and talking crap.. but who knows...

Unless someone knows something that I don't (which is always on the cards) the only risk in putting it in the refrigerator is if someone takes it out and spreads it on their toast.

Just put it in a well marked plastic bag and stick it in the fridge somewhere out of the way - and let other members of the household know what it is and to just leave it alone.
« Last Edit: December 08, 2018, 05:19:10 am by Brumby »
 

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Re: Solder Paste Newb, Question about storage and shelf life?
« Reply #7 on: December 08, 2018, 06:12:26 am »
Well thanks for the reply's, can I ask what the risk is when using this stuff with smd parts? Is it going to cause corrosion over time? The stuff said it will solder with a match on the label I tried to spread it on two pieces of 6ga wire and use a butane heat gun to get it soldering I ended up having to use the iron in the end, so not as impressive as there pitch, I will stick with my leaded silver bearing solder for most things but thought this stuff may work well for QFNs with a heat gun.


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