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Soldering temperature question

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Vovk_Z:

--- Quote from: Shock on February 13, 2020, 01:18:49 am ---I checked the specs and it indicates the minimum temp of the station is 200C. So you solder at 2C above the melting point of 183C? Not that I don't believe you, but I think the actual tip temp is higher than you think it is.
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:) , I just tried to melt three my 60/40 solders at different temperatures, and it starts to melt at 150 C (at T12 station readings) and higher :)
Can't find my termocouple.

Shock:

--- Quote from: Vovk_Z on February 13, 2020, 04:51:57 pm ---I just tried to melt three my 60/40 solders at different temperatures, and it starts to melt at 150 C (at T12 station readings) and higher
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Time to do a youtube video showing free energy exists.

KL27x:

--- Quote ---:) , I just tried to melt three my 60/40 solders at different temperatures, and it starts to melt at 150 C (at T12 station readings) and higher :)
Can't find my termocouple.
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Don't worry. If it's a cheap T12 clone station, the tip temp will droop something fierce when on a joint due to uncorrected sensor-heater coupling. In my testing on a double-sided board ground plane, a cheap T12 station droops, IIRC, something like 20-30C. Well, actually, it is 20-30C MORE than an 888 droops. (Less heatsinking of the board, less droop; more heatsinking of the board, more droop). This means the T12 clone will need a higher true/free-air setpoint to match an 888. Your iron being 35C off is one way to skin that cat and make the iron seem to overperform. But when the iron is unused and just sitting in the stand, it will quickly rise to a higher temp if there's no auto-standby. 

For the average hobbyist this works just fine. If you do high volume batch soldering, you might notice this. I did. The downside is more frequent cleaning of the tip and more frequent need to adjust the temp for the conditions. For the average hobbyist, "it gets hot so fast" makes up for it.

DBecker:

--- Quote from: Vovk_Z on February 13, 2020, 04:51:57 pm ---
--- Quote from: Shock on February 13, 2020, 01:18:49 am ---I checked the specs and it indicates the minimum temp of the station is 200C. So you solder at 2C above the melting point of 183C? Not that I don't believe you, but I think the actual tip temp is higher than you think it is.
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:) , I just tried to melt three my 60/40 solders at different temperatures, and it starts to melt at 150 C (at T12 station readings) and higher :)
Can't find my termocouple.

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You have a T12 style tip with the wrong internal thermocouple for your controller.  It is likely a K type when the controller is expecting an N type.  Which would make 150C indicated about 210-220C actual.  When you were soldering at "185" that was about 260C.  (Temperature guesses from a tiny graph, not precision calculated.)


https://www.eevblog.com/forum/projects/measuring-temperature-from-a-t12-soldering-tip/

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