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Title: Spec of a scope: "flatness" - What is it exactly?
Post by: eTobey on May 29, 2024, 09:13:53 am
I can not find information about this spec (just lot of mechanical flatness).

Anyone can explain or has some links for it?
Title: Re: Spec of a scope: "flatness" - What is it exactly?
Post by: gf on May 29, 2024, 09:38:04 am
If you mean specs like in the attached screenshot, they refer to the frequency response.
Title: Re: Spec of a scope: "flatness" - What is it exactly?
Post by: pdenisowski on May 29, 2024, 10:08:14 am
I also assume they mean the frequency response - in this case, how uniform the passband is.  I discuss this in one of my videos

https://youtu.be/FhT8TpuI7ek?t=531

Title: Re: Spec of a scope: "flatness" - What is it exactly?
Post by: eTobey on May 29, 2024, 12:52:16 pm
I have now made 2 different measurements, which i thought would yield the same result. I run a sweep (5-55Hz), and looked at the maximum amplitudes. Then i made a FFT (1Hz - 500Hz), but from 22Hz to 70 Hz there is a huge bump. What is this?
Title: Re: Spec of a scope: "flatness" - What is it exactly?
Post by: ebastler on May 29, 2024, 01:29:18 pm
What was the actual signal amplitude you sent to the scope during that sweep? Looks like about 20 mV p-p with a 500 mV offset?!

I think you mixed somthing up with the peak hold function. You don't want that applied to the time series signal, but select it as the FFT mode! (So the FFT uses the strongest frequency components it encounters at various times, while the sweep is ongoing.)

You also need to set a rather slow sweep time on the signal generator. Essentially the FFT must complete at least one full spectrum calculation for each data point you want in the final swept spectrum. 
Title: Re: Spec of a scope: "flatness" - What is it exactly?
Post by: gf on May 29, 2024, 02:27:08 pm
I think you mixed somthing up with the peak hold function. You don't want that applied to the time series signal, but select it as the FFT mode!

Indeed. Never ever use peak detect acquisition mode in conjunction with FFT.
Peak detect acquisition is not sampling in the sense of the Shannon-Nyquist samplling theorem.