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Offline daviddmf

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Square wave with 100% positive offset
« on: January 13, 2014, 05:24:07 pm »
Hello this is my fist post and I am seeking advice on how to set my Rigol function generator to produce a Positive Offset Square Wave Frequency. There appears to be two options if I am to turn my frequency generator into a Hulda Clark type zapper which I would like to experiment with.

1. set the wave to square. Frequency (desired frequency) Amplitude 8vPP. Offset 4.0 VDC and Lowlevel Offset 0V. Duty cycle 50%.
2. Same as above but "the base of the square wave is set individually on every unit a minimum of 1/4 volt above zero to avoid undesirable negative spikes." (according to Hulda Clark) So it would look like this:
set the wave to square. Frequency (desired frequency) Amplitude 8vPP. Offset 4.250. VDC and Lowlevel Offset 250mV. Duty cycle 50%.

Could someone please explain why a pure Positive Offset Square Wave is altered by Hulda Clark to "avoid undesirable negative spikes?  The whole idea of the zapper is to avoid any negative current as in current below the reference line. Also which way would the current be flowing from the red terminal to black on my Rigol DG1022 function generator. And any idea how much current would be flowing through these terminals?

I have no qualifications in electronics so sorry if I am using incorrect terminology.

Thanks for your help :)

 

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Re: Square wave with 100% positive offset
« Reply #1 on: January 13, 2014, 08:15:36 pm »
"Could someone please explain why a pure Positive Offset Square Wave is altered by Hulda Clark to "avoid undesirable negative spikes?"

Why are you asking us to divine the meaning in the words of someone who is either insane or a liar? There is no meaning there, don't go looking for it.
 

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Re: Square wave with 100% positive offset
« Reply #2 on: January 13, 2014, 08:45:40 pm »
Asking here how some homeopathic's weird ideas work is not going to get any answers. The only answer I can provide is don't waste your time on such unscientific, unfounded craziness.
 

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Re: Square wave with 100% positive offset
« Reply #4 on: January 14, 2014, 10:59:01 am »
There's definitely something in it guys, they've got crystals in and everything. http://www.huldaclarkzappers.com/
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Re: Square wave with 100% positive offset
« Reply #5 on: January 14, 2014, 11:10:26 am »
I just want to have those bacteria and parasites in HD as a screen saver :)

And definitely want to have my own Crystal Toilet Seat just like this one :


 

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Re: Square wave with 100% positive offset
« Reply #6 on: January 14, 2014, 11:14:04 am »
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Re: Square wave with 100% positive offset
« Reply #7 on: January 14, 2014, 12:15:02 pm »
It's wrong to criticize the 'crazy' people trying random things in their garage that aren't supported by science. 

As long as the don't hurt other people directly or indirectly i say leave them alone to experiment. Even if only one in a million of them discover something real it's still worth it.

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Re: Square wave with 100% positive offset
« Reply #8 on: January 14, 2014, 02:32:07 pm »
Ok i'll bite and try to take this seriously.
The only reason i can think of for the extra offset is that most functiongens won't alwas give you a clear signal. Depending your fg the frequency and parasitics (not those you want to zap) there can be issues like undershoot and ringing that can give short negative spikes even though your squarewave is 100% offset. the extra offset provides some buffer to make sure the signal can never go negative, even if it undershoots.

The current, both positive and negative would be limited by how much current the dg1022 can source and your skinconductivity. Unfortunately skinconductivity ranges wildly and depends on a lot of factors, so i can't give you a number here.

Off course as already mentioned the whole concept behind this is most likely BS, so i don't see how any of this would matter.
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Re: Square wave with 100% positive offset
« Reply #9 on: January 14, 2014, 03:30:32 pm »
It's wrong to criticize the 'crazy' people trying random things in their garage that aren't supported by science. 

As long as the don't hurt other people directly or indirectly i say leave them alone to experiment. Even if only one in a million of them discover something real it's still worth it.

It does hurt people directly and indirectly. When people waste their time and money chasing things like this that have already been proven to be fraud, quack science, or misguided beliefs, they divert their resources away from things that actually can cure or have a benefit. Letting people go on believing things like this makes them more likely to believe the next thing or even worse things.
 

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Re: Square wave with 100% positive offset
« Reply #10 on: January 14, 2014, 04:21:28 pm »
But the funny thing is it actually helps some of the people. Not the device itself but believing it is helping them. Believing is healing. And to all of us nonbelievers; we are doomed because of lost faith :)

I've seen some variations of the mentioned device, one sold for over 600 euros as I recall. For that money it has to do something good doesn't it?

Hm, direct analogy to audiophoolery? Only this time the moral aspects are somehow more important...

@daviddmf
I hope you didn't buy a signal generator just for this purpose. For a few USD/EUR you can make such a device by yourself.
 

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Re: Square wave with 100% positive offset
« Reply #11 on: January 14, 2014, 07:52:52 pm »
Perhaps a small percentage of people might trick themselves into thinking they feel better by believing in this ridiculousness but they aren't actually getting cured by it. There are at least a few documented cases linked on that site of people being told they were cured by this Clark person who shortly thereafter died. Of cancer that Clark said was "cured." The Clark woman herself died of cancer for crying out loud. You think she invented a cure for cancer and decided she just didn't really want to use it for herself?
 

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Re: Square wave with 100% positive offset
« Reply #12 on: January 14, 2014, 08:04:28 pm »
Hello this is my fist post and I am seeking advice on how to set my Rigol function generator to produce a Positive Offset Square Wave Frequency. There appears to be two options if I am to turn my frequency generator into a Hulda Clark type zapper which I would like to experiment with.

1. set the wave to square. Frequency (desired frequency) Amplitude 8vPP. Offset 4.0 VDC and Lowlevel Offset 0V. Duty cycle 50%.
2. Same as above but "the base of the square wave is set individually on every unit a minimum of 1/4 volt above zero to avoid undesirable negative spikes." (according to Hulda Clark) So it would look like this:
set the wave to square. Frequency (desired frequency) Amplitude 8vPP. Offset 4.250. VDC and Lowlevel Offset 250mV. Duty cycle 50%.

Could someone please explain why a pure Positive Offset Square Wave is altered by Hulda Clark to "avoid undesirable negative spikes?  The whole idea of the zapper is to avoid any negative current as in current below the reference line. Also which way would the current be flowing from the red terminal to black on my Rigol DG1022 function generator. And any idea how much current would be flowing through these terminals?

I have no qualifications in electronics so sorry if I am using incorrect terminology.

Thanks for your help :)
You appear to be aware of electronics "words" and stuff like that, but I suspect you have no insight. I genuinely recommend you visit your GP at a minimum and ask for some help from mental health councillors. If you are in the USA then I feel sorry for you and your inevitable decline to living on the streets as a hobo for no fault of your own, but at least in the rest of the first world, we have mental health care available. It helped both my mum and my brother immensely. Please seek it as soon as you can, it needn't end badly. I mean it.
 


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