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Offline FaringdonTopic starter

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Ground loops created in PCB copper pour.
« on: January 18, 2024, 06:49:49 pm »
Hi,
I just did a ground copper pour in the PCB internal layer as attached.
But due to the way that the tracks have cut up the copper pour,
a ground loop has been created.
Would you be too concerned by these?
(as far as creating noise to interfere with the circuit, and with other
PCBs nearby)
« Last Edit: January 18, 2024, 07:41:24 pm by Faringdon »
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Re: Ground loops created in PCB copper pour.
« Reply #1 on: January 18, 2024, 07:13:52 pm »
Pics or it didn't happen
 
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Re: Ground loops created in PCB copper pour.
« Reply #2 on: January 18, 2024, 08:08:57 pm »
It seems to me that this is effectively a double post and the OP has people replying to both of them!

https://www.eevblog.com/forum/renewable-energy/keep-dead-copper-pours-on-pcb-that-needs-cooling/
Best Regards, Chris
 
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Re: Ground loops created in PCB copper pour.
« Reply #3 on: January 18, 2024, 09:51:11 pm »
I don't really get it. If you have internal layers - meaning at least a 4-layer PCB - then the usual, and reasonable approach is to dedicate one layer to GND without routing any signal on it, just a single plane and vias.

If you have routed other signals/power rails on the internal layer with a GND plane, then you either don't know how to lay out a PCB, or you're not using the right number of layers.
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Re: Ground loops created in PCB copper pour.
« Reply #4 on: January 18, 2024, 10:22:41 pm »
Yes.  Noise makes ADCs useless and can cause glitches.
 
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Re: Ground loops created in PCB copper pour.
« Reply #5 on: January 19, 2024, 06:46:39 am »
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I don't really get it. If you have internal layers - meaning at least a 4-layer PCB - then the usual, and reasonable approach is to dedicate one layer to GND without routing any signal on it, just a single plane and vias.

If you have routed other signals/power rails on the internal layer with a GND plane, then you either don't know how to lay out a PCB, or you're not using the right number of layers.

Thanks, due to cost, we dont have possibility of >4 layers. Signals had to go on all 4 layers, there was no room otherwise.
Yes the inner "ground " plane is badly cut up, but we cant afford 6 layer board.
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Re: Ground loops created in PCB copper pour.
« Reply #6 on: January 19, 2024, 03:25:12 pm »
The entire point of a board with more than two layers is so that you can have a nice continuous ground/power plane.  If you're routing signals like that on all four layers you either have an extremely dense board, or you're bad at routing.

I don't suppose you could post the other layers?  Or is it some super secret project?

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Re: Ground loops created in PCB copper pour.
« Reply #7 on: January 19, 2024, 04:51:14 pm »
It's always too expensive to do it properly with treez.
 
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Re: Ground loops created in PCB copper pour.
« Reply #8 on: January 19, 2024, 04:54:26 pm »
That does not look that dense so you cannot dedicate one internal layer of 4 layer PCB to GND plane. Looks more like poor layout.
« Last Edit: January 19, 2024, 05:00:23 pm by wraper »
 
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