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Mechatrommer:

--- Quote from: mcovington on December 27, 2019, 04:52:16 am ---
--- Quote from: MarkF on December 26, 2019, 06:42:08 pm ---You can actually download the 3rd (2015) version here:
   https://archive.org/details/TheArtOfElectronics3rdEd2015/page/n3

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Not a legitimate, legal distribution, in case someone had not guessed this.

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thats my guess... i've been browsing aoe 3rd now and then in ebay, sometime it expensive sometime ok... i just dont have the gut yet to hit that buy button. 3 books now, the main, lab course, and now X version, the cheapest i guesstimate is $200 for all. to make sure it will be worth a buy, or for really tight budget students, there are currently ebay seller selling the pdf version for $2.50 for the main and lab course version (you can bet its not legit as well). but/so we can evaluate if its much different from aoe 2nd. i can print the 1220 pages on A4 and cheap ink easy, but if the contents are worth it, nothing will beat real hardcover copy.


--- Quote from: anvoice on December 26, 2019, 10:16:02 pm ---In my humble opinion, The Art of Electronics is not the best "first" Electronics book. I picked it up and put it down soon after when I realized I don't understand many of the concepts it details. For example, the Thevenin theorem for linear circuits is glossed over in a "yeah, we stated it, you probably get the rest" manner. While I have seen almost nothing but positive reviews of TAOE and believe it is probably a great book for the advanced enthusiast, it's not really a primer. Unless you want to memorize a lot about circuits and their elements without a detailed understanding of how the mathematics work and how the models are derived.
Personally, I can't wait to start reading it again, but not until I've got a couple of intermediate level courses under my belt.

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one book will never be enough. there's a whole chapter just for thevenin, norton, phasor, Z-transform and all those abstracts matters. if you want that belt, a book for 1st semester ee course may suits you (basic in electric and electronics) but they wont touch practical circuits, you are not going to like them in their entirety anyway, even though they are as thick as aoe. if you read about a particular knowledge and you seems not to have a clue or very difficult to understand it, then we need to go back one step down the road, ie read more basic/elementary knowledge, until they all fit together nicely (like a puzzle). i keep telling that to myself.

cheers,
owner of aoe 2nd, india/asia version.
(and never finished reading it)

mark03:

--- Quote from: rstofer on December 27, 2019, 12:03:13 am ---Don't forget, AoT is used at MIT for some level and most of us aren't at that level.  Maybe the kids just 'get it' by osmosis or something.
[...]
Now, once you get to AC circuits, the math gets intense.  You have the choices of 1) ignore the math, understand the solution; 2) learn the math and really understand the solution or 3) skip AC circuits altogether or put them off for another day.  Nobody wants to mess with differential equations if they struggled with Algebra.  You can go a long way without knowing the derivations for this stuff.

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Funny, my problem is always the opposite!  PhD in EE but never learned circuit design beyond the required undergrad classes.  I have AoE but as soon as they get into circuits with more than one transistor, I get lost.  They start making these offhand comments right and left...  and I'm like, wait, why is that true?  I can't see it!  Lots of stuff they seem to assume is obvious, but it's not to me.  I figure the only way to really learn this stuff well is to apprentice with someone who already knows it.

BTW, archive.org (The Internet Archive) would never intentionally host a bootleg copy of the text.  Maybe they have permission?

tggzzz:

--- Quote from: mark03 on December 27, 2019, 06:32:46 am ---BTW, archive.org (The Internet Archive) would never intentionally host a bootleg copy of the text.  Maybe they have permission?

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I have no idea of the source of that copy.

Win Hill did make a pdf version available via his dropbox account. The last time I searched for the URL, the book was still there.

No, I'm not going to publicise the dropbox URL. If Win wants to make the pdf easily accessible, he has a website available :)

And, for the record, I have paper copies of TAoE I, TAoE III, and soon TAoE III-x.

Mechatrommer:
quickly skimp the aoe3 chapters... dont donate your aoe2 just yet, some chapters are not in aoe3...
https://www.eevblog.com/forum/reviews/the-art-of-electronics-3rd-edition-considered-incomplete/msg2846062/#msg2846062
and since some figures/sub chapters are removed, they will be lost along with your aoe2 if you do..

mcovington:

--- Quote from: mark03 on December 27, 2019, 06:32:46 am ---BTW, archive.org (The Internet Archive) would never intentionally host a bootleg copy of the text.  Maybe they have permission?

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That is a very good point.  Maybe it was some kind of temporary release that was accidentally left up, or something.

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